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RE: Sins
March 22, 2015 at 5:54 pm
I'm not a Christian, but I'll have a go.
What is sin?
Harming another person unnecessarily.
Do you sin every day?
No.
Do you believe thoughts can be sins?
No, and anyone who does is a fuckwit.
Do you think that you have to act on thoughts for them to become sins?
Yes, and anyone who doesn't think so is a fuckwit.
Are some sins worse than others?
Of course they are.
Are there some things that you consider sins that most people don't?
See my first reply above.
Are there some things that you don't think are sins that other people do?
Yes, depending on context. For example, telling an untruth can hurt someone needlessly, or it can spare someone's feelings.
(Hopefully, those two questions made sense)
No worries, you were very clear.
Paul said that he was the worst sinner in 1 Timothy 1:15. Do you agree? How could he be the worst sinner?
Actually, I think Paul might have been the best, most accomplished sinner in the history of Christendom. To be the 'worst' sinner would mean to fail at sinning, whereas Paul was nothing short of a roaring success.
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RE: Sins
March 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm
(March 22, 2015 at 5:40 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (March 22, 2015 at 12:53 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: Prove what I said isn't true. Provide statistical, documented proof. I'll wait. Total avoidance of addressing my point. So predictable.
Well, I'm afraid I can't help drippy in his hopeless cause. My kids never had chicken pox.
Sorry to piss all over you really bad argument drippy.
Did you have chicken pox? Did anyone you ever know had them? Do you know of them? Then your still good
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RE: Sins
March 22, 2015 at 8:57 pm
(March 22, 2015 at 5:30 pm)Drich Wrote: (March 22, 2015 at 2:53 pm)daver49 Wrote: So, if it's an ever present condition that creates a need and the need is constant...(I'm assuming because the condition is constant) than it must be conditional behavior, right? So we are like Pavlov's dogs? That reminds me, where is my bone..?
You meant bell.
I heard the bell and I wanted my bone! Now it won't go away!
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RE: Sins
March 22, 2015 at 9:02 pm
(March 18, 2015 at 2:12 pm)Nope Wrote: Quote:While I factually know that a certain person has killed thousands of people and some of the motive behind it, when we are talking about sin against God on a heart level, I may have killed tens upon tens of thousands. On the heart level you can kill people multiple times and in multiple ways. On this level, my sin skyrockets into heights I can’t even see. And it goes way beyond just anger and murder. Just try to think about every idle word, every lust, every deed shirked, every opportunity not seized, every person ignored, or even not loved well, every Bible lesson I taught but did not live out, every impulse of greed. There is just no way to calculate the immensity of heart sin. So that serial killer has nothing on me. All I know is that he killed and raped lots of people. That is bad, but it is just a drop in the bucket compared to me. I can’t know his heart level sin. It might be really bad, but I will never know. What I do know, or at least what I know with guilt-searing accuracy, is all the sin that has happened in my heart.
If you are religious, do you agree with this writer? Do you believe that anger against another person is the same thing as raping and killing that same person?
I'm not a Christian, but I will say that the passage you quoted illuminates perfectly the self-hatred that the religion inculcates.
I feel sorry for all those still trapped in its web of self-loathing and Stockholm Syndrome.
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RE: Sins
March 22, 2015 at 9:14 pm
(March 22, 2015 at 3:57 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Religion is difficult to nail down with analogous metaphors. It's part addiction, part abusive relationship. All cult. It's hard to get out because the answer to every question is to surrender even more to it.
I like the phrase "analogous metaphors." It has a ring to it.
Anyway, are you sure your not talking about S/M with a cage?
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RE: Sins
March 22, 2015 at 9:30 pm
(March 22, 2015 at 9:02 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (March 18, 2015 at 2:12 pm)Nope Wrote: If you are religious, do you agree with this writer? Do you believe that anger against another person is the same thing as raping and killing that same person?
I'm not a Christian, but I will say that the passage you quoted illuminates perfectly the self-hatred that the religion inculcates.
I feel sorry for all those still trapped in its web of self-loathing and Stockholm Syndrome.
Yeah, thought crime may be the most ridiculous thing out of the whole book, though there are plenty of others. The idea of thoughts equaling actions is something no one should be able to take seriously.
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RE: Sins
March 22, 2015 at 9:32 pm
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(March 22, 2015 at 9:14 pm)daver49 Wrote: (March 22, 2015 at 3:57 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Religion is difficult to nail down with analogous metaphors. It's part addiction, part abusive relationship. All cult. It's hard to get out because the answer to every question is to surrender even more to it.
I like the phrase "analogous metaphors." It has a ring to it.
Anyway, are you sure your not talking about S/M with a cage?
There's no safe word with religion. 
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RE: Sins
March 22, 2015 at 11:02 pm
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(March 22, 2015 at 5:24 pm)abaris Wrote: (March 22, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: Your drivel is sad and pathetic and I'm not even going to entertain the mile long circular response from you because you have gotten so way far off topic, any response from this point out would be pointless.
He's a weaseling collection of bible quotes. Not that he still didn't say anything to clarify the "final test" part of his trucker story. After a while it gets fundamentally boring to even read what he's typing.
I notice he back pedals much of the time. Tries to sound funny and conveniently twists what he writes so that when you call him out, he suddenly indicates that what he wrote isn't what he meant. None of which works.
I sense a perma-block coming up because I don't need to take any more headache meds than I already do now.
(March 22, 2015 at 5:52 pm)Drich Wrote: . . . *removed ALL of it because it's drivel.
You remind me of the teacher in the Peanuts comics. You know, the one where you can't understand anything she says because she's not actually talking. Yeah, that one.
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RE: Sins
March 23, 2015 at 8:07 pm
I don't know why more people don't embrace their inner slag tbh
Like being a slag is such a bad thing. Get that dick tbh, as long as it's safe and consenting. Fuck the 2000 year old scripture.
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RE: Sins
March 23, 2015 at 8:09 pm
(March 23, 2015 at 8:07 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: I don't know why more people don't embrace their inner slag tbh
Like being a slag is such a bad thing. Get that dick tbh, as long as it's safe and consenting. Fuck the 2000 year old scripture. Spoken like a true Robert Baratheon.
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