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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 23, 2015 at 6:24 am
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If one doesn't believe in the afterlife, then it should be no problem for him, hell I mean, yet homosexuality isn't disbelieving, thus it's not correct actually to say it makes you spend an eternity in hell.
I didn't actually discuss sexuality, I only discussed how the type of homosexuality I mentioned is spreading in Sunni communities.
Oh wait...you probably think I don't know, that for many gays, it's a mere man-man relationship huh ? where in my comment, did I say that bottoms gotta be feminized, or tops gotta be masculine ...etc ? Or, when did I say, that gay relationships sometimes, don't even include a top or a bottom, rather both sides play them two roles according to the mood ?
I discussed a certain case ; nuclearjaguar, putting in my mind that the reader is well informed already, yet to have my example involved in a context of a counter argument, against the Sunni Woman mentioned in the original post, along with the stereotype opinion about Islam itself, being harsh on personal freedom as some claim.
As any sexual act, homosexuality comes in different shapes & colors, giving an example about one taste doesn't mean a generalization  .
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March 23, 2015 at 9:06 am
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(March 22, 2015 at 8:27 pm)AtlasS2 Wrote: I mentioned in other topics, how to some people, it's okay to call others' thoughts stupid, or say things that might hurt their emotions ; yet when it comes to homosexuality, or feminism, these few people get so uptight without a reason, just because the stereotypical opinion is going in that direction.
Which proves a case of double standards & hypocrisy. You're bitching about being called out on being an ignorant bigot, no shits are given. In this case, your complaint doesn't apply, as a reason has been given...you made an incredibly ignorant and bigoted claim - there's the reason...understand?
Quote:Nobody hated homosexuals and nobody spoke about homophobia. If my neighbor is sticking it in the wrong hole, then I should stop sticking my nose in is hole too, right ? but that wouldn't prevent me from forming an opinion, right ?
I would be very surprised if you actually formed that opinion, rather than having it fed to you.
Quote:Just like the opinion you just drew against me, being "mental midget" ?
Or the opinion which some atheists draw upon me for believe in Islam ?
I didn't draw an opinion "against you", that is my opinion -of your statements, or of anyone who would make such statements. I'm sure though, you have a great point here, martyr. 
Quote:It surprises me how you don't practice what you preach, Rhythm.
I'm bigoted against bigots (is the summary arrived at often enough -by bigots-), I'm okay with that...at least I'm not trying to excuse myself by pointing at anyone who might bring up the obvious about me or my statements as though I were being victimized or characterized unfairly, eh? I don't even know what you think I'm "preaching" here, or, how I might practice what I'm "preaching" -whatever that is. I think..instead, that you lost your fucking shit in defense of bigotry and ignorance imposed upon you, accepted by you, and never critically examined thereafter. There is nothing, not a word of the following statement which is true.
"I personally have no problem with gays, aside from the above : that their act is destructive to the natural mating process & to the natural process of producing babies."
-No, it isn't..they couldn't achieve that if they tried...and yes, you do have a problem.
This is ignorant, irrational, and bigoted - it has nothing to do with islam or your being a muslim, it has nothing to do with stereotyping you, no double standard or hypocrisy has to be leveraged in order to offer the summary I gave of that comment or those who might make it, and there is certainly no effort on my part expended in order to -prevent you- from forming such an opinion. Your "problem with gays" is not actually a problem with gays, it's your own problem. Hell, I wouldn't even chide you for it if I thought you were a hopeless case, I was surprised to see those words with your SN attached. More than anything, though, I was tickled at how you managed to attach that woefully fucked up statement to some "who am I to judge" horseshit....well, you asked the question.....don't ask questions you don't want answered round these parts.
Anything else?
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March 23, 2015 at 11:34 am
^ ? Jaw drops, as I say in my comment that I have no problem with gays, aside from stating in bold, that my opinion is formed about the act itself ; yet the magnificent Rhythm still tries to show me, as having a problem with gays.
Kudos, buddy ^^ you successfully killed me.
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 23, 2015 at 11:38 am
"I have no problem with Muslims, only they can't ever wear outwardly Islamic clothing, perform any islamic prayers, and islamic rituals or customs, and can't perform any islamic worship. I have no problems with Muslims, aside from stating bold, that my opinion is formed about the Muslims practices themselves."
Please tell me you can understand how brutally dishonest and bigoted that sounds.
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 23, 2015 at 12:15 pm
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(March 23, 2015 at 11:34 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: Jaw drops, as I say in my comment that I have no problem with gays, aside from stating in bold, and again, since the statement is non-factual, ignorant, and bigoted...thats not actually a "problem with gays" - again, it is your problem..or, if you prefer..a problem with you
Namely - attaching your opinion to such a non-factual, ignorant, and bigoted claim.
Quote: that my opinion is formed about the act itself ;
the problem, again and as always..is that your opinion is -not- formed about the fact itself, it is formed regarding a non-factual, ignorant, and bigoted statement.
Quote:yet the magnificent Rhythm still tries to show me, as having a problem with gays.
One needn't be magnificent to point any of this out to you. -and I'm fabulous, not magnificent, get it right!
Quote:Kudos, buddy ^^ you successfully killed me.
I'd rather help you to become a less ignorant, and less bigoted -living- human being. Failing that, however..... 
@F&F -if he could, then I doubt he'd be making it...pretty sure Atlas is not the person that his statements in this regard would lead anyone to believe. Fed and swallowed - not arrived upon and harbored.
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 23, 2015 at 4:43 pm
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(March 23, 2015 at 11:38 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: "I have no problem with Muslims, only they can't ever wear outwardly Islamic clothing, perform any islamic prayers, and islamic rituals or customs, and can't perform any islamic worship. I have no problems with Muslims, aside from stating bold, that my opinion is formed about the Muslims practices themselves."
Please tell me you can understand how brutally dishonest and bigoted that sounds.
Back it up with a reason, and I won't consider it neither biggoted nor dishonest.
For example, many non-Muslims speak out that they have a problem with muslims ; providing their reasons by in which Islam makes people think magically then commit fanatic acts. Actually that's an argument which I can discuss, I would never call its owner "BIGOT" because there's a reason behind it.
Before throwing a Rhythm-like comment ; Keyboard jihadist style, discuss the reason itself
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March 23, 2015 at 4:45 pm
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You've already been given a reason. The statement that you made is non-factual, ignorant...and bigoted. Are you interested in exploring that - or are you interested in shrugging it off?
How could homosexuality possibly do what you described. How....what ability does it have to do that? Does the statement even work..mechanically? How could a problem -you have- with homosexuality be a problem at all(in any way other than as a problem with some weird ass mental tick of your own)...if nothing that you mentioned is even remotely possible, or is even mechanically coherent?
Jihadist....is an honor I don't deserve. Those fuckers are committed....I'm actually reassessing the value of conversation with you and the accuracy of my gut feelings about you.
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 23, 2015 at 4:47 pm
It is utterly impossible to get any sort of concrete answer out of Atlas.
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 23, 2015 at 4:47 pm
^ that's not countering my reason with an argument, that is called countering my reason with insults.
Like many Wahabbies.
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 23, 2015 at 4:50 pm
How could homosexuality do what you say? Right off the bat...show that it's even possible for homosexuality or homosexuals to do what you claim is your "problem" with homosexuals or homosexuality?
That's step one...in case you weren't aware.
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