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RE: Phil Robertson Hates Atheists
March 27, 2015 at 9:30 pm
(March 27, 2015 at 7:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 25, 2015 at 6:57 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Atheists would judge him harshly and punish this guy for his crimes, whereas his GOD would completely forgive this torturous murderer if only he would stroke god's ego at least a few seconds before he died.
Robertson could spend eternity praising jeebus right beside the man that cut off his pecker and slaughtered his family, and he calls us evil???
Lets not think in terms of labels, there are lots of believers and atheists who would want revenge for rape(mob rule). And there there are lots of believers and atheists who would take an arrest contain and let the jury do it,(rule of law).
I myself as an atheist would have the same emotional reaction to rape, my mom was raped when I was a teen. But I it still would not give me the right to take the law into my own hands after the fact. And I don't like our growing Nacy Grace presume guilt media either. I still would rather let the guilty go free than to convict one innocent person.
Now that does not negate the horrible morality of the God character. Has the power to stop bad things but does not. Believers, left or right still are not getting their morals out of that book like they think, their morals are in them, the book just gives them excuses to follow a comic book.
Our morality is in our species, not our labels.
I agree with you, but that was not the point of the conversation. The dichotomy I was referring to was between God himself and atheists, not between Theists and Atheists.
God would not hold the murderer accountable if the killer spiritually blew him, but the atheists he vilifies for not believing in objective morals would generally hold the hypothetical murderer to justice even if they wouldn't necessarily agree on the severity of the punishment.
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RE: Phil Robertson Hates Atheists
March 28, 2015 at 9:38 am
(March 25, 2015 at 7:19 pm)Alex K Wrote: (March 25, 2015 at 7:14 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (emphasis is mine)
Decapitate her head off?!?
Yeah, right before defenestrating her remains out of the window.
That would kill her to death.
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RE: Phil Robertson Hates Atheists
March 30, 2015 at 12:46 am
I'd say that his show should be cancelled. Then again, I'm just a heartless Atheist. Why should an atheists feelings matter? But I'm not surprised. He follows a holy book that is filled with hate and discrimination, so for me personally, I'm not surprised he'd say something so patheticly stupid. I don't think I can successfully mock him. He mocks himself so well, that I'd probably just be talking about him instead of mocking him. Need I say more? He's desperate IMO. Likely just wants attention. I'd say ignore the guy and watch his fame die miserably and like the pathetic crap it is.
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RE: Phil Robertson Hates Atheists
March 30, 2015 at 1:34 am
Their popularity is waning quickly. They mainly appeal to people like my parents. I used to love the show, the first couple of seasons were gold. Uncle Si is funny as hell. The first couple of seasons had enough of the "we'll show you what this crazy family does normally" peppered in with the set up antics. After that is was just comedy bits with the Robertsons, adding new characters to keep it "fresh." It'll be off the air soon.
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RE: Phil Robertson Hates Atheists
March 30, 2015 at 8:06 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2015 at 8:07 am by *Deidre*.)
(March 25, 2015 at 6:34 am)Nope Wrote: Quote:Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him."
Robertson continued:
"And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot 'em and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off in front of him. And then they can look at him and say, 'Isn't it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn't it great that there's nothing wrong with this? There's no right or wrong, now is it dude?'
Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, 'Wouldn't it be something if this was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We're sick in the head, have a nice day.'
If it happened to them, they probably would say, 'Something about this just ain't right.'"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/25...36662.html
Robertson is a disturbed individual. No one needs religion to know child rape, decapitation of innocent women and severing a man's penis all done while mocking the dad's lack of beliefs is not only wrong but pretty damned sick. Hopefully, he never physically hurts anyone but his example is disturbingly specific. He's always been a sick fuck. What is sicker is that people still send him money to keep this garbage going.
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RE: Phil Robertson Hates Atheists
March 30, 2015 at 8:16 am
His analogy might be more convincing if belief in god stopped religious people from committing such horrible crimes. But the prisons are full of people who claim to believe in god and yet did not fear his judgment enough to stop them from hurting or killing other people.
On the other hand, a pedophile priest who simply gets moved to a new parish might well be thinking "isn't it great that I don't have to worry about being judged?"
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