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RE: Even Sadiq hates Corbyn...
August 21, 2016 at 7:15 am
Labour are suffering badly under Corbs.
Momentum (the group that support Corbs and are made up almost exclusively London Yuppie types) constantly say that membership is up under Corbyn, and that that somehow translates to them winning an election (they lost everything bar one seat in Scotland, they broke even in the council elections and the Tories lost nothing, despite being in power, which goes against every trend in the last half century, they've won a few labour heartland by elections and they won an mayoral election in which Khan distanced himself from Corbyn at every step, which turned out to be a blessing).
It doesn't. I know almost as many people who left labour (centrist, social democrat people) than joined when Corbs was elected.
I have to keep telling people who support Corbs on my newsfeed that there has never, and will never, be an appetite for a far left or far right candidate in the UK. Our politics doesn't work like that, and Corbyn, aside from being an incompetent fool and doing his upmost to sabotage not just national policy making but even internal labour party policy (EU membership, Working tax credits [didnt vote on a cornerstone of labour policy, told Owen Smith he didn't know anything about it!!], Trident), is a hangover from the Trot's failed attempts to militarise the Labour Party in the 70s and 80s
If he wins the election (and he will), the core labour vote will have to decide if they want to split off and form a new SDP and maybe join with the old SDP (Lib Dems). I would support that both with my membership and my vote.
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RE: Even Sadiq hates Corbyn...
August 21, 2016 at 7:35 am
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And yeah it seems that a split in the Labour Party is definitely going to happen at some point. It'll certainly be interesting to watch.
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RE: Even Sadiq hates Corbyn...
August 21, 2016 at 8:24 am
They will split. There's no other choice. You need to flee a sinking ship, and there's not enough vocal support for progressive policy making in the Labour membership at the moment to warrant being an outspoken majority within the PLP to scupper Corbyn's ridiculous policy aims in parliament. Better to form a permanent back bench through a new party and start to work on feasible policies and a better opposition (they would be the majority opposition in the Commons so would actually form a new shadow cabinet).
Leave the corbynistas and their pro anti-Semitic, racist, socially and economically incompetent policy 'aims' to their echo chamber.
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RE: Even Sadiq hates Corbyn...
August 21, 2016 at 2:15 pm
I like Corbyn - a lot. However, I will still vote the Green Party. The Labour part is full of imperialists and coopratists: That's why they want Corbyn gone. It's really only (within the Labour Party) the MPs that hate Corybn. The majority of the rest of the party members love him. His poll numbers are down because the mainstream media is treating him as Bernie Sanders was treated. That makes me like him more.
Yes, the Labour Party should split. If I insulted any of my bosses in public I'd get fired from my job. Corbyn needs to discipline his MPs. However, the electoral system will keep it together for the time being. I would hope Jeremy sees the Labour Party is a lost cause and joins the Green Party.
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