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The Fragility of Religion/God
March 28, 2015 at 5:02 pm
Pretty sure some version of this has been brought up before. But I've read enough whiny bs on the forum I feel it's worth some discussion. Put simply, god doesn't seem to have any balls. (god is a girl?)
The slightest challenge to religion requires the most ferocious response.
Reading/studying anything that contradicts religion is forbidden. (Or anything contradicting originated from the devil, therefore no go)
If a religious person can't come up with good rebuttal, then we usually degenerate into derail or irrelevant tangents.
Why does god require so much defense? Why are christians (or any religion) so damn scared of other opinions? If your god is supposedly so powerful, why all the effort showing otherwise?
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RE: The Fragility of Religion/God
March 28, 2015 at 5:15 pm
I often wonder about the kind of religionist that spends their time yelling at atheists, purposely seeking out atheist forums, when they could be chatting congenially with people of like mind on the appropriate forums or at their temples, or even better, doing good works like feeding the homeless, working at a shelter, etc. I've come to the conclusion that what a great many, maybe even most of them are doing is not shouting us down, but shouting down their own doubts about their religion, their own growing disbelief, their fears and their insecurities.
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RE: The Fragility of Religion/God
March 28, 2015 at 5:19 pm
If something is questioned or challenged even slightly, it promotes more questions and challenges unless dealt with harshly. Christianity in particular has some glaring inconsistencies so they must be particularly severe when it comes to people questioning their religion.
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RE: The Fragility of Religion/God
March 28, 2015 at 5:27 pm
(March 28, 2015 at 5:02 pm)Spooky Wrote: Why does god require so much defense? Why are christians (or any religion) so damn scared of other opinions? If your god is supposedly so powerful, why all the effort showing otherwise?
More importantly, if the truth is so fucking evident, why have the majority of all people to ever live missed it?!?
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RE: The Fragility of Religion/God
March 28, 2015 at 5:54 pm
History already pokes major holes in religion science does too even critical thinking.
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RE: The Fragility of Religion/God
March 28, 2015 at 9:36 pm
(March 28, 2015 at 5:19 pm)Tobie Wrote: If something is questioned or challenged even slightly, it promotes more questions and challenges unless dealt with harshly. Christianity in particular has some glaring inconsistencies so they must be particularly severe when it comes to people questioning their religion.
This.
If someone actually believed a true religion, then questioning it and examining it could never disprove it. It is because religions are false that they need protection from careful examination.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: The Fragility of Religion/God
March 28, 2015 at 9:58 pm
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2015 at 9:59 pm by Chad32.)
It's always a bad sign when one of the worst sins you can commit is heresy. Which means disagreement with the religion. In some circles that's the one unforgivable sin, probably because a truly skeptical person is the hardest to convert, and if they don't convert they can't be forgiven.
The truth always holds up to scrutiny over time. Ultimate truth should not be afraid of questions, and attempts to break it apart.
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RE: The Fragility of Religion/God
March 29, 2015 at 1:56 am
It's very true. Religion rules by emotion, not logic. It cashes in on unfalsifiable propositions and fails utterly when it tries to tiptoe outside that safe haven.
Going to straight to emotional responses is a sure sign you're covering your insecurities.
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RE: The Fragility of Religion/God
March 29, 2015 at 2:34 am
(March 28, 2015 at 9:58 pm)Chad32 Wrote: It's always a bad sign when one of the worst sins you can commit is heresy. Which means disagreement with the religion. In some circles that's the one unforgivable sin, probably because a truly skeptical person is the hardest to convert, and if they don't convert they can't be forgiven.
The truth always holds up to scrutiny over time. Ultimate truth should not be afraid of questions, and attempts to break it apart.
The second thing Moses did after he got the Ten Commandments was to kill everyone in his group who didn't agree with his religious delusions and wanted to follow their own religious fairy tales.
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RE: The Fragility of Religion/God
March 29, 2015 at 2:41 am
Yeah, that is a briliant story  We are told that if we "find God" then we will automatically worship him forever. But even in his own book, they get bored of him and worship something else when he turns his back for five minutes.
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