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First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
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RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
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RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
How does this compare with the maximum that they were expecting from the revamped collider? Are there higher energies yet to come? And are there specific questions within the new energy range which they are expecting to answer with it?
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RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 12:00 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(May 21, 2015 at 11:59 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: O noes, this thing is going to create a black hole that om nom noms the Earth!

Panic

Probably. Better get drunk and have lots of sex quick. If it turns out that the world doesn't end after all, at least you had a nice few weeks.


(May 21, 2015 at 11:59 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Rad. What does LHC stand for? Lsomething Hadron Collider?

Little

Languid.



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#14
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 12:15 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(May 21, 2015 at 12:00 pm)Alex K Wrote: Probably. Better get drunk and have lots of sex quick. If it turns out that the world doesn't end after all, at least you had a nice few weeks.




Little

Languid.

Wait, I thought it was Large Hardon Collider?
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#16
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(May 21, 2015 at 12:15 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Languid.

Wait, I thought it was Large Hardon Collider?

That's from 10 pm - 5 am.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#17
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
So, how much more energy is required to create a black hole?
And a god?
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RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 12:42 pm)pocaracas Wrote: So, how much more energy is required to create a black hole?
And a god?

If General Relativity is correct and the world has three space dimensions, a factor of 1000000000000000 more energy is required to make black holes. If there are some extra space dimensions with micrometer size, we could already be making them, but you can imagine that that is a very speculative scenario. People have already looked for these things and with 8 TeV, none were to be seen. It is doubtful that this will change drastically with 13 TeV.


I'm not sure what the god mass and coupling constants are, so...
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RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(May 21, 2015 at 12:42 pm)pocaracas Wrote: So, how much more energy is required to create a black hole?
And a god?

If General Relativity is correct and the world has three space dimensions, a factor of 1000000000000000 more energy is required to make black holes. If there are some extra space dimensions with micrometer size, we could already be making them, but you can imagine that that is a very speculative scenario.
Seems we're a bit far off... the media are blowing this out of proportion...

(May 21, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Alex K Wrote: I'm not sure what the god mass and coupling constants are, so...

I'm sure you can find it in a dusty old book written by desert people, if you read it with an open mind.
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RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 12:50 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(May 21, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Alex K Wrote: If General Relativity is correct and the world has three space dimensions, a factor of 1000000000000000 more energy is required to make black holes. If there are some extra space dimensions with micrometer size, we could already be making them, but you can imagine that that is a very speculative scenario.
Seems we're a bit far off... the media are blowing this out of proportion...

Erm, duh, that's what they do. But as I said, if this extra dimensions scenario were true, it's not far off. It's hard to assign probabilities to funny theory proposals, and so it's more or less a matter of taste how likely you think it is. It would be one way to explain the hierarchy between the planck energy and the mass of the observed particles - Gravity would actually be much stronger than we observe (and the planck mass much much lower than we think), but we observe Gravity after it has been diluted in several extra space dimensions, and so it looks weak. It's a fun idea to think about.
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