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What is your ideal world with religion?
#21
RE: What is your ideal world with religion?
Rob obviously bigger institutions have more money and supporters but in a democracy that's just how stuff works - If I have an ideology with 50 people I can't create a party because we are little in numbers. I actually like religious buildings because of the architecture and history. If you can gather maybe 50000 followers you may be able to start a religion (just pick the tenets wisely )
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#22
RE: What is your ideal world with religion?
(May 27, 2015 at 11:41 pm)nicanica123 Wrote: What role would religion? Could you ever keep religion out of politics? As long as people have fervent religious beliefs, it seems like politicians would always have to pander to such people.

That's why you tax the bastards and treat them the way you treat any other lobbying group.
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#23
RE: What is your ideal world with religion?
(May 28, 2015 at 9:01 am)ignoramus Wrote: Hey Prince, That's part of the 5 hour Illuminati conspiracy youtube thing I posted last week.
Towards the end, they mention that among many other things, a unified religion is necessary as part of the New world order.
By this stage, Prince William will be at the top of the food chain amongst the Illuminati, he will leave what's her name and marry a muslim woman.
This will unite the 2 biggest opposition religions and become one new one. This will happen in the next 10 years.
So nobody throw shit at me until then, alright. You with me on this Prince or against me! Pick a side!  hehe
FWIW, part of the new govt laws of the NWO is there will be no such thing as inheritance!  Lucky for me my parents are broke!

Gotta go, time for my medication...

Don't be absurd!  Prince William will never be able to wrest power from Elvis, who rules the world from his bunker under Graceland.  Don't underestimate Elvis!  He faked his death in order to take over the Illuminati and rule the world.  He was so clever, he was able to push the previous head of the Illuminati from power.  The previous head of the Illuminati, of course, was Hitler, as they saved his brain and he was ruling without his body, as one can see from video proof from the 1960's:

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#24
RE: What is your ideal world with religion?
(May 28, 2015 at 10:05 am)robvalue Wrote: If you took the bible, removed all the supernatural nonsense, removed the irrelevant garbage, removed the inaccurate history and removed the immoral examples given... I'm not sure how much would be left, and whether it would be significantly better than a piece of paper with "Try not to be a dick" written on it.

There would be a bit of history, and some insight into the cultures at that time, to be fair.

I don't know the Quran so well, so I'm not sure if it would fare better after a purge. I would love to see people rewrite these stupid books, so that they actually say what people tell us they say.

I actually tried this experiment of removing all nonsense from the Quran. The end result was just a typical literary text, contains a collection of poems that lacks any significant meaning to them. 

My idea is to establish a religion from scratch, a religion which bonds people rather than divide the world into cults. This is 'Ideal' world, Muslims & Christians take Jews as friends and vice versa. I know its impossible to make this possible because the majority of people prefer to take commands from a higher power such as a 'delusional' God.
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#25
RE: What is your ideal world with religion?
Thomas Jefferson tried that with the bible.  Not much left is there.
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#26
RE: What is your ideal world with religion?
(May 28, 2015 at 11:47 am)Minimalist Wrote: Thomas Jefferson tried that with the bible.  Not much left is there.

Yeah... the bible non magical bullshit edition it was only a few pages worth of reading if remember correctly or a little more. 
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#27
RE: What is your ideal world with religion?
I suppose it would be nice if the world were more secular, but I don't really have an ideal.  Things seem to work themselves out okay without my meddling.

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I do not believe it can be done.
The universe is sacred.
You cannot improve it.
If you try to change it, you will ruin it.
If you try to hold it, you will lose it.

So sometimes things are ahead and sometimes they are behind;
Sometimes breathing is hard, sometimes it comes easily;
Sometimes there is strength and sometimes weakness;
Sometimes one is up and sometimes down.

Therefore the sage avoids extremes, excesses, and complacency.


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#28
RE: What is your ideal world with religion?
I can see religion becoming more of a cultural thing, and having less and less actual effect on people (in the West, at least). It's pretty much already happened here in England. Going on about religious stuff with any kind of passion would just get you very strange looks here rather than people joining in.

I think each new generation is less and less impressed with the bald assertions of religion that grow ever further away from common scientific knowledge.
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#29
RE: What is your ideal world with religion?
(May 27, 2015 at 7:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Eddie Izzard nails it.







I agree. This is right where it should be. And Eddie Izzard is awesome!
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