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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 8:21 pm
MK, for what it's worth, everything may be irrelelvant anyway.
I've been watching countless hours of N DG Tyson docos lately.
A particle physicist friend of his has released a hypothesis in which he has discovered recurring similar groupings of data in the quantum universe which he suspects are the EC (error correction) checksum code data.
He is in fact proposing that we have in fact "hit" the wall of the VR world we live in. True story.
So basically, forget god, forget anything you think you know about anything.
Is there an afterlife? Sure, why not, you and I are just a snippet of reusable subroutines.
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 29, 2015 at 1:34 am
Does that friend of NdGT smoke a lot of dope or is he more the LSD type of person?
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 29, 2015 at 8:59 am
(May 29, 2015 at 1:34 am)Alex K Wrote: Does that friend of NdGT smoke a lot of dope or is he more the LSD type of person?
hehe ...NDGT laughed it off as well ...He's says there are literally thousands of hypothesis every year that don't make it past the first base.
(I'd love to hear some other crazy arse stuff if you got any...apart from tomatoe sauce erupting of course!) 
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 29, 2015 at 9:11 am
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Well, the craziest I can think of off the top of my hat, and that is seriously being considered by physicists, would be the holographic hypothesis, which basically states that the world has 2 space dimensions and there is only the boundary of what we call the universe - and a third dimensions arises as a kind of dynamical effect of the physics on the two dimensions. The most important pointer that led to this conjecture was that the amount of "information" one can store in a given volume of space is limited by the fact that at some point it would collapse into a black hole. Now, it turned out that the information content at which this happens does not depend on the volume of space, but is proportional to the *surface*. This led people to speculate that this limitation might be due to the fact that fundamentally, the world is only two-dimensional (plus time).
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 29, 2015 at 9:24 am
that's similar I think to the one NDGT showed pictorially of "us" being a flat sheet and we see a sphere entering the flat sheet as a point, growing into a bigger circle as the sphere continues to pass through the flat sheet and finally as a point again at it disappears. And the whole time, we can never know it was actually a sphere due to the limitations of our universe?
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 29, 2015 at 9:27 am
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(May 29, 2015 at 9:24 am)ignoramus Wrote: that's similar I think to the one NDGT showed pictorially of "us" being a flat sheet and we see a sphere entering the flat sheet as a point, growing into a bigger circle as the sphere continues to pass through the flat sheet and finally as a point again at it disappears. And the whole time, we can never know it was actually a sphere due to the limitations of our universe?
I think what you mention is more like an illustration of higher dimensions and how we would perceive the 3D-projections of higher-dimensional objects, which is a fascinating exercise. But there being more than 3 space dimensions is an old hat by now. Been there, done that. There really only being 2, now that's gutsy.
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 29, 2015 at 10:56 am
I'll check it out ...does it have any traction? or just another looney tune?
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May 29, 2015 at 10:58 am
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 29, 2015 at 11:08 am
Is it any wonder that regular people don't take seriously the stuff physicists say?
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 29, 2015 at 11:12 am
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(May 29, 2015 at 11:08 am)Pyrrho Wrote: Is it any wonder that regular people don't take seriously the stuff physicists say?
No, not at all. Regular people are idiots. Fortunately, we don't have any of those here, eh? 
But really, you are being unfair, for he asked me for the craziest thing I could think of that was being considered seriously. And you can't argue with black hole entropy, Sir...
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