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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 5:06 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 4:52 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: No, it is not that I think he is special or diserves to be deflected of blame, I just believe everyone is equal.
We are not equal in our crimes. I have never committed the crime that guy did. Nor have I ever committed a worse or comparable crime. So I am better than he is.
I would hope that you are better than him, too, but given your determination to maintain that he isn't that bad, it makes me wonder.
But let us see if we can get you to see reason. Do you believe everyone deserves to be put in prison? Or do you believe that only some people deserve to be put in prison? If you believe the latter, then you don't think everyone is equal or equally bad.
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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 5:08 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: (May 28, 2015 at 4:52 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: No, it is not that I think he is special or diserves to be delected of blame, I just bekuef everyone is equal.
Not equal in the literal way, there's a thread on it going on. Social equality =/= literal equality
And you could at least admit he's a shithead. it sounds like you're trying to justify his actions...
C4RM5 sounds like he is saying others are doing it too! Why pick on the poor, long-suffering Christians? Tu Quoque fallacy anyone?
C4RM5 - do you deny religious people of all faiths don't play the holier-than-thou card on a fairly regular basis? It's part of the core mindset. We see them here all the time, albeit sometimes couched in fake humility. I see them all the time in real life. I see them on the news, in their writings. I see them more often even than I see dead people. And I see dead people!
For me, it's the hypocrisy of someone in a position of de facto moral leadership, using that position for selfish, and in this case, criminal activities. Exposing them, whether Christian, Jew, Muslim or secular is a worthy pursuit. It doesn't help to say "many others are doing it too!" Makes you look like an enabler...
Meanwhile up in Heaven, your god stands idly by, wringing his poor little Jesus-hands in impotent rage: "just you wait until you die and I get to send you to my Eternal Torture Chamber! That'll fix ya!"
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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 5:10 pm
I don't think Mike Huckabee is going to step up to the plate for this inseminater.
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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 5:20 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 5:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Seems like getting all that pious churchy stuff at church, straight from the tap, so to speak, should be an especially good palliative for moral shortcomings.
Damn, what hope is there for us ??
This is what C4RM5 doesn't grasp. Overtly religious people are specifically called out in these instances because of the incessant moralizing. If their argument from morality is insufficient to influence the behavior of the devout then there can't possibly be any practical benefit to the scheme. This becomes painfully obvious when one considers that benefits and consequences aren't doled out until after death.
Miscreants of all sorts are loathed for their misdeeds; however, believers are specifically noted for their hypocrisy.
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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 5:28 pm
And some of those overtly churchy types are not shy at all about wanting their god's edicts, decrees, rules, commandments, laws, and whims ensconced in the law of the land for everyone, especially when god's take on how things should be just happens to align with how they want things to be.
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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 5:31 pm
I wonder if they'll be an abortion.
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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 5:42 pm
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 5:49 pm
Oops. I missed that.
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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 6:08 pm
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(May 28, 2015 at 5:20 pm)Cato Wrote: (May 28, 2015 at 5:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Seems like getting all that pious churchy stuff at church, straight from the tap, so to speak, should be an especially good palliative for moral shortcomings.
Damn, what hope is there for us ??
This is what C4RM5 doesn't grasp. Overtly religious people are specifically called out in these instances because of the incessant moralizing. If their argument from morality is insufficient to influence the behavior of the devout then there can't possibly be any practical benefit to the scheme. This becomes painfully obvious when one considers that benefits and consequences aren't doled out until after death.
Miscreants of all sorts are loathed for their misdeeds; however, believers are specifically noted for their hypocrisy.
Oh please...
These types of people will exist in any church congregation, (believer/make-believer/unbeliever) but "ye shall know them by their fruit". Was not Judas counted among the disciples, yet Jesus referred to him as a devil?
Quote:John 6:70
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
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RE: R'uh r'oh, Sunday school teacher impregnates teen
May 28, 2015 at 6:08 pm
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