Antitheist Ex-Marine To Hold Draw Muhammad Rally in AZ Friday

[Minimalist]

In fact, it's a sentiment I agree with. Fuck Islam. Fuck Islam. Fuck Islam.

Fuck all religions.  There.  How very ecumenical of me!

[CapnAwesome]

Given the location, I'd had a lot more sympathy for an "antitheist" if he would hold a "draw Jesus" event simultaneously.

Hey, what could go wrong?

Nobody gives a shit about drawing Jesus. The next time someone is shot over drawing Jesus there will be a protest against it.

[Brakeman]

Do me a favor and replace muslim with jew, brake. And see if you would want to make that kind of blanket statement.

Counting the seconds till Deist chimes in about muslimes not being a race: So here's my proactive answer - bigots are bigots, wether they have prejudices towards the members of a bycicle club, a race or a religion. The results of blanket statements are always ugly.

Do you know of a lot of jews killing people all over the world now? No? Have you seen marching jews on TV screaming to kill the non-jews?

Well then No, jews do not fall into this classification. That's silly.

If their book was currently being popularly interpreted to incite violence to innocent people and they were capturing and beheading charity workers, then yes, they too would be deserving of societies disdain. It's not the fault of the people standing up to the bullies, it's the bullies, the muslims.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Radicals do not define a movement, to the rationally- minded. One has to be terribly blinkered to se a sliver of a minority as representative ... that's like upholding Stalin and his Chekists as representative of leftists.

Silly, just bloody silly.

[Faith No More]

Nobody gives a shit about drawing Jesus. The next time someone is shot over drawing Jesus there will be a protest against it.

People will give a shit about drawings of Jesus is you do it right.

Personally, I would like to see a picture of naked Jesus on all fours with a ball-gag in his mouth being led on a leash by a male dominatrix.  That might get the Christians thinking about rounding up the torches and pitchforks.

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Radicals do not define a movement, to the rationally- minded. One has to be terribly blinkered to se a sliver of a minority as representative ... that's like upholding Stalin and his Chekists as representative of leftists.

Silly, just bloody silly.

Of course the radicals don't define the movement, but what does define it is the reaction of the majority towards the radicals.  For there being over a billion Muslims, they seem awfully quiet about the problem, and when you do bring the radicals up to a moderate, most of them seem only interested in blaming the problem on the Western media and smear campaigns.  My own perceptions have lead me to think that the moderates may even be afraid of condemning the radicals.

And on top of that, even moderate Islam is plagued with oppressive sexism and honor killings.

If the radicals were the only problem with Islam, people would have more of a justified objection to "Fuck Islam."

[CapnAwesome]

Radicals do not define a movement, to the rationally- minded. One has to be terribly blinkered to se a sliver of a minority as representative ... that's like upholding Stalin and his Chekists as representative of leftists.

Silly, just bloody silly.

At what point is someone a radical? In Islam controlled countries there is no free speech. It's not the radicals that are the problem, it's the religion.

[Pyrrho]

Radicals do not define a movement, to the rationally- minded. One has to be terribly blinkered to se a sliver of a minority as representative ... that's like upholding Stalin and his Chekists as representative of leftists.

Silly, just bloody silly.

At what point is someone a radical? In Islam controlled countries there is no free speech. It's not the radicals that are the problem, it's the religion.

The same was true of Europe when it was in the grip of the Catholic Church in the dark ages.  When a religion is in charge of a country, there is no free speech.  It is nothing unique to Islam.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm not saying that Islam is not an obnoxious religious practice, I'm not defending its backwardness.

But quite frankly the moderates do speak out against the radicals with regularity. The problem is that those headlines don't drive as many mouse clicks, and don't resonate with a Western public that doesn't want to challenge its own narrative.

[CapnAwesome]

At what point is someone a radical? In Islam controlled countries there is no free speech. It's not the radicals that are the problem, it's the religion.

The same was true of Europe when it was in the grip of the Catholic Church in the dark ages.  When a religion is in charge of a country, there is no free speech.  It is nothing unique to Islam.

Yeah, of course. The rest of us just don't live in the dark ages anymore.

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I'm not saying that Islam is not an obnoxious religious practice, I'm not defending its backwardness.

But quite frankly the moderates do speak out against the radicals with regularity. The problem is that those headlines don't drive as many mouse clicks, and don't resonate with a Western public that doesn't want to challenge its own narrative.

Like I said, I don't think it's the radicals that are the bulk of the problem. How do you define mainstream Islam? Is the government of Saudi Arabia mainstream? It's the religious center of Islam and they are a far bigger problem then the occasional shooting in the west (not that I would defend that in any way.) I don't think that a few westernized Muslims at all represent Islam. Quite to the contrary, we see what happens when there is a Muslim majority in almost any country, and that's a repression of free speech.

[paulpablo]

I'm not saying that Islam is not an obnoxious religious practice, I'm not defending its backwardness.

But quite frankly the moderates do speak out against the radicals with regularity. The problem is that those headlines don't drive as many mouse clicks, and don't resonate with a Western public that doesn't want to challenge its own narrative.

I don't know if it's the same in America but in England it's pretty much the exact opposite of what you said.  After every terrorist attack every person in Authority, starting with the prime minister has to say that the terrorist attack wasn't done by Muslims practicing the real Islam and all the major newspapers have to print according to that storyline.  That along with articles dedicated to what the moderate Muslims say about the attack.

Personally the way I see it is if someone wants to attack one religion and wear a T shirt telling to to fuck off then that's good.  Especially if this one religion right now seems to be the one trying to cause limitations on freedom of expression.

This isn't an even game at all in terms of allowances of freedom to express yourself against all religions.  We've had the Jesus is a cunt T shirts, Jesus has appeared on south park as a main character, the life of Brian, the passion of the christ and so on and so on.  I think it's about time someone wore a fuck Islam T shirt and told Muhammad to fuck off, nothing personal against him it's just all the people who follow him who are still acting like it is the dark ages.