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World War II vs continuation of human race
#21
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
(June 7, 2015 at 11:18 am)Nope Wrote:
(June 7, 2015 at 10:42 am)noahide Wrote: No, because i'm believer. But I think to atheist it is logical that cost of continuation of human race is too high.


Why would I want my own species to fail?
Because your species is not one organism but group of individuals that have to die with every new generation to keep your species going.

(June 7, 2015 at 11:18 am)Nope Wrote: It would make better sense for Christians to not reproduce. First of all, Christianity teaches that things will get gradually worse and that most people will be fooled to accept an ant Christ as a leader. Accepting this leader will cause many billions of people untold suffering for eternity. Why would you risk that your children or grandchildren or great grandchildren will suffer torment forever and ever
You should tell that to Christians
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#22
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
(June 7, 2015 at 11:18 am)Nope Wrote: Christianity teaches that things will get gradually worse and that most people will be fooled to accept an ant Christ as a leader.

Sometimes typos actually add to the message.


(June 7, 2015 at 11:21 am)noahide Wrote: Because your species is not one organism but group of individuals that have to die with every new generation to keep your species going.

You do realize to be part of that species, I hope? Or are we talking to a Marsian? A chimp maybe?
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#23
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
(June 7, 2015 at 11:21 am)abaris Wrote: You do realize to be part of that species
I'm believer it's irrelevant to me just like evolution.
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#24
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
(June 7, 2015 at 11:04 am)noahide Wrote:
(June 7, 2015 at 10:59 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: What the fuck do you know about logic anyway?

Judging from this post, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about it.
Explain to me logically why human race should continue while billions of people die?

We are animals. All animals die. Some animals kill one another. Should lions stop existing because new male lions will drive off the old leader of the pack and kill the cubs so that the females will go into heat? No, of course not. 

I haven't yet read his book but according to Steven Pinker we are becoming less violent.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Better-Angels-...1491518243

This is from Amazon's description of the book

Quote:We’ve all asked, “What is the world coming to?” But we seldom ask, “How bad was the world in the past?” In this startling new book, the bestselling cognitive scientist Steven Pinker shows that the world of the past was much worse. In fact, we may be living in the most peaceable era yet.


Evidence of a bloody history has always been around us: the genocides in the Old Testament and crucifixions in the New; the gory mutilations in Shakespeare and Grimm; the British monarchs who beheaded their relatives and the American founders who dueled with their rivals.

Now the decline in these brutal practices can be quantified. Tribal warfare was nine times as deadly as war and genocide in the 20th century. The murder rate in medieval Europe was more than thirty times what it is today. Slavery, sadistic punishments, and frivolous executions were unexceptionable features of life for millennia, then were suddenly abolished. Wars between developed countries have vanished, and even in the developing world, wars kill a fraction of the numbers they did a few decades ago. Rape, hate crimes, deadly riots, child abuse―all substantially down.

How could this have happened, if human nature has not changed?

Pinker argues that the key to explaining the decline of violence is to understand the inner demons that incline us toward violence and the better angels that steer us away. Thanks to the spread of government, literacy, trade, and cosmopolitanism, we increasingly control our impulses, empathize with others, debunk toxic ideologies, and deploy our powers of reason to reduce the temptations of violence.
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#25
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
(June 7, 2015 at 11:21 am)abaris Wrote:
(June 7, 2015 at 11:18 am)Nope Wrote: Christianity teaches that things will get gradually worse and that most people will be fooled to accept an ant Christ as a leader.

Sometimes typos actually add to the message.

Normally, if I notice a mistake I change it but I think I will leave that typo alone. 
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#26
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
Careful, this may actually be God trying to decide if he's going to send another deluge.
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#27
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
(June 7, 2015 at 11:26 am)Nope Wrote:
(June 7, 2015 at 11:04 am)noahide Wrote: Explain to me logically why human race should continue while billions of people die?

We are animals.
We are humans and can act against our instincts

Quote:I haven't yet read his book but according to Steven Pinker we are becoming less violent.
This guy probably never heard about WWII, Rwanda and Middle East
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#28
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
(June 7, 2015 at 11:21 am)noahide Wrote:
(June 7, 2015 at 11:18 am)Nope Wrote: Why would I want my own species to fail?
Because your species is not one organism but group of individuals that have to die with every new generation to keep your species going.


(June 7, 2015 at 11:18 am)Nope Wrote: It would make better sense for Christians to not reproduce. First of all, Christianity teaches that things will get gradually worse and that most people will be fooled to accept an ant Christ as a leader. Accepting this leader will cause many billions of people untold suffering for eternity. Why would you risk that your children or grandchildren or great grandchildren will suffer torment forever and ever
You should tell that to Christians

What religion are you that you have such a negative viewpoint of the future of your own species? 
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#29
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
(June 7, 2015 at 11:35 am)Nope Wrote: What religion are you that you have such a negative viewpoint of the future of your own species? 

Psst, don't tell anyone. This is just a clever ploy to be provocative. Didn't you notice the subtlety of the arguments presented?
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#30
RE: World War II vs continuation of human race
(June 7, 2015 at 11:35 am)Nope Wrote:
(June 7, 2015 at 11:21 am)noahide Wrote: Because your species is not one organism but group of individuals that have to die with every new generation to keep your species going.


You should tell that to Christians

you have such a negative viewpoint of the future of your own species? 
I don't, Im just asking logical proof of necessity of continuation of human race from atheist viewpoint
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