Local Washington State NAACP Leader Outed By Parents As White

[vorlon13]

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Why is the NAACP asking about race on their internal paperwork ?

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Race information is often gathered for the purpose of making sure that government guidelines regarding discrimination are followed.  See:

http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/qanda_race_color.html

If such data is not collected, how will one know if a company is discriminating on the basis of race or not?


As for this particular case, here is something that the NAACP has stated, according to CNN:

The NAACP issued a statement Friday on Rachel Dolezal's "enduring a legal issue with her family," saying, "We respect her privacy in this matter."

"One's racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying standard for NAACP leadership," the group said. "The NAACP Alaska-Oregon-Washington State Conference stands behind Ms. Dolezal's advocacy record."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/12/us/washing...-identity/

As I noted earlier, most instances of the government making racial inquiries amounts to suborning perjury. They need to be called on it.  Seems like that would be right up the NAACPs mission statement . . .

[Iroscato]

Gif is relevant, probably.

[Dystopia]

It's funny (the census) - In Europe it is common to forbid collecting data based on race for a variety of reasons - The most predominant one being to avoid discrimination. That's right. Don't forget that Europe is the former home of fascism and nazism - A survey saying the population of blacks has increased is enough to light up people's racist feelings. Europeans aren't as used to multiracial societies as America. You can collect data based on race for individual surveys, but not for national ones. Another thing is that many European people have specific ancestries (even if most natives are white) and there's a bunch of words people use to describe themselves. When people ask me "what race are you?" I don't answer "white" but "Mediterranean" - It's the scientifically correct word actually - Northerns are scandinavian, eastern Europeans are slavic, central Europeans are Germanic, etc. I'm not a geneticist - Someone who is will probably be able to make a guess about where people are from just by looking at their face - Honestly, I am able to identify northern tourists by looking at them, usually British and Germans, because they're much whiter and taller than me - But I'm no expert. My girlfriend is white mixed with some gipsy, and she is considered native. Portuguese people are racist, but we ignore and remain oblivious to a little of mixed ancestry - It's just when people are noticeably not mediterranic that we start being racist

We are all mixed, but it's noticeable that many people have a predominant ancestry... Logically, someone who is blonde with blue eyes, straight hair and average sized nose will almost always be caucasian - Someone with dark skin, curly/afro hair and broader nose will probably be African. For purposes like this (An institution fighting for civil rights) it's obvious people have to be black - I don't see why it should be any different.

Everyone has a racial identity - You can say that we are all one species - Fine, but when asked you can't run away from the question, there must be a definition that fits you,even if it is "mixed" or "multiracial" - The fact it's mostly a social construct doesn't matter because with race usually comes culture and personal history. Languages are a social construct as well, but useful for many things.

My mother jokingly says I must be Jewish because of how much I love money and refuse to lend some to people

[SteelCurtain]

Is this some sort of minstrel show she's putting on?

[Alex K]

For purposes like this (An institution fighting for civil rights) it's obvious people have to be black - I don't see why it should be any different.

And how do you decide "being black"?

[KUSA]

I think it is so racist to say that a white person can't be black. The intolerance makes me sick. We need to fight for our rights.

[Dystopia]

For purposes like this (An institution fighting for civil rights) it's obvious people have to be black - I don't see why it should be any different.

And how do you decide "being black"?

Having significant/noticeable African ancestry? I think it's a fair criteria. It's what society decides is black - For the most part, that's people with a majority of African ancestors - For mixed race people, they get to decide which side they wish to identify with, but they mostly pick non-white ancestry because, for some reason, we tend to perceive fully caucasian people as whites but anyone with a little of non-white noticeable ancestry is automatically not white.

[KUSA]

And how do you decide "being black"?

Having significant/noticeable African ancestry? I think it's a fair criteria. It's what society decides is black - For the most part, that's people with a majority of African ancestors - For mixed race people, they get to decide which side they wish to identify with, but they mostly pick non-white ancestry because, for some reason, we tend to perceive fully caucasian people as whites but anyone with a little of non-white noticeable ancestry is automatically not white.

That's not good enough. Exactly how much DNA does it require to be this or that?

[Dystopia]

It's irrelevant, it's just how society perceives you and your physical features + culture (african one)

[Alex K]

And how do you decide "being black"?

Having significant/noticeable African ancestry? I think it's a fair criteria.

criterion

It's what society decides is black - For the most part, that's people with a majority of African ancestors -

That's a bullshit criterion.
Are you ready to enact a fixed rule that only those with a majority of (recent) African ancestors can work for such social justice causes. That criterion would exclude President Obama, for example. Would you have a caucus about who's black enough?

For mixed race people,

That's another bullshit term. Africa is the most genetically diverse place on earth, and there is no such thing as a clear definition of "mixed race.

they get to decide which side they wish to identify with, but they mostly pick non-white ancestry because, for some reason, we tend to perceive fully caucasian people as whites but anyone with a little of non-white noticeable ancestry is automatically not white.

Until it is dilute enough