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Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach

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Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 8, 2015 at 7:44 pm
The classic theist response. "My god is real and yours is not". Same evidence, same stories, just a matter of preference. As it has been said, once you truly understand why you reject all those other gods, you will understand why we reject yours.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 8, 2015 at 7:48 pm
Special pleading is the theists stock in trade.
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Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 8, 2015 at 7:49 pm
(July 8, 2015 at 7:44 pm)IATIA Wrote: The classic theist response. "My god is real and yours is not". Same evidence, same stories, just a matter of preference. As it has been said, once you truly understand why you reject all those other gods, you will understand why we reject yours.

According to Randy's logic, his god is a rapist, and we didn't even need to follow scripture to come to that conclusion.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 8, 2015 at 7:54 pm (This post was last modified: July 8, 2015 at 7:56 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(July 8, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: You get one warning to speak politely and refrain from gratuitous profanity before you go on my ignore list.

This is that warning.

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(July 8, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: You get one warning to speak politely and refrain from gratuitous profanity before you go on my ignore list.

Ignore is for the weak of mind or heart.

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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 8, 2015 at 7:56 pm
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 8, 2015 at 7:58 pm
(July 8, 2015 at 6:31 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(July 8, 2015 at 5:35 pm)Spooky Wrote: Assuming we've given you good data, what is stopping you from abandoning your 'faith' and taking a logical view?

Obviously, because I think my data set is superior to yours which is incomplete.

I disagree.  While our data set is incomplete (I agree on that point), that doesn't make it inferior.  Yours is inferior as it is based neither in reality nor can you provide any facts for the data you present. Incomplete data with factual support > Complete data based on mythology and magic.
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July 8, 2015 at 8:02 pm (This post was last modified: July 8, 2015 at 8:03 pm by Minimalist.)
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Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 8, 2015 at 8:10 pm
(July 8, 2015 at 7:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote: [Image: papalchildprotection1.jpg]

Hahahaha. You just broke my funny fuse. It was designed to handle a literal boat-load of funny. I'll now be needing an upgrade.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 8, 2015 at 8:15 pm
(July 8, 2015 at 6:36 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(July 8, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: The problem with this argument is even if you could establish your "minimal facts" , as fact, they don't point to anybody rising from the dead.

The Minimal Facts are:

1. Jesus died by crucifixion
2. Jesus' disciples believed that He rose and appeared to them
3. Saul, the persecutor of the Church, was suddenly changed
4. James, the skeptical brother of Jesus, was suddenly changed
5. Jesus' tomb was found to be empty

Not a single one of these has to do with a person rising from the dead.

Given this set of facts, the resurrection is the best probable explanation of them, IMO.

However, you disagree. So, what is your theory about what happened?


There is the entire problem with this argument, like I said none of those assertions point to a resurrection. I don't care about your crackpot theories or your opinions, your argument was supposed to prove a resurrection using a set of facts.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 8, 2015 at 9:34 pm (This post was last modified: July 8, 2015 at 9:36 pm by Randy Carson.)
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