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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 8:04 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 7:58 pm)PiousPaladin Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 7:55 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Yeah - because human sacrifice is all those societies were about. They deserved all the genocide they got.
The figures of such claimed genocide are grossly overinflated and unrealistic. Even were they not it what does death matter compared to the wonderous gift of eternal life to be found within the teachings of the true religion?
Even if the figures were ten times as high as the ones you refer to it would still be worth it to share the message.
The slaughter was worth it to give them eternal life?
According to your own myths, since they were slaughtered as unrepentant non believers their "reward" was eternity in hell.
Yes, such a fine "gift".
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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 8:12 pm
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(June 28, 2015 at 7:37 pm)PiousPaladin Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 7:33 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: If you are into Fatima, do you believe that the Consecration of Russia occurred?
This is a topic of debate within the SSPX. We are rather split on the matter.
I personally originally did not think it did, but in light of the revival of Christianity and the subjugation of the liberals in Russia underneath Putin I am starting to wonder if in fact it may have. Of course to have an Orthodox leader hardly is a good sign, but his actions have been rather promising.
I don't know how you could think that, Our Lady of Fatima promised world peace upon the completion of the consecration, and Sister Lucia was very adamant about mentioning the words 'Russia and the whole world' in the consecration that was supposed to be done in union with the bishops around the world, and the Holy See ignored this, to me, for a purpose. I think the pope and others in the Vatican know that this Fatima ordeal was a sham, and tactically avoided these words in the 'consecrations'. Why else would the catholic church not do such a simple prayer? Why would they not want world peace? Many catholics like to say the devil has infiltrated the Vatican, but it makes more sense that, they know deep down, this whole thing was a hoax, and they know if they go through with the real consecration, and there isn't world peace, the catholic church's power, money, and corruption quickly falls apart. This will cause a massive amount of people to disbelieve in the authenticity of the apparitions, and probably cause many to question their faith in catholicism, as a whole. That's why John Paul II, both in 1982 and 1984, and Pope Francis, in 2013, tactically ignored the "we consecrate Russia to your immaculate heart", because they know it's one big scam. (seems to me that this is the most reasonable conclusion)
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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 9:14 pm
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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 9:17 pm
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(June 28, 2015 at 1:12 pm)emjay Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 12:47 pm)Metis Wrote: Have to say I am a bit suprised by this SSPX/Catholic tag team though 
Hmm...
@Randy
Can you give us your word that you do not know PiousPaladin outside this site (be that in real life or on another site) OR that he is not a sock of you? If you give me your word, I'll believe you.
I wouldn't trust Randy as far as I could kick him against the wind on a ten-man-front. I've seen too much of his duplicity already.
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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 9:22 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 12:56 pm)PiousPaladin Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 12:52 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Well I think you just figured out the problem of why not everyone knows gods love. He wrote it on the heart which just pumps blood, when he should of wrote it on our brains. He did have a lot going on with his grueling training program of making people rape and enslave each other until they figured out it was wrong.
It is a metaphor describing a mans natural yearning for God, although I can see in this heathen world you might struggle to hear it amongst the screaming materialism around you.
What the hell would any religious knucklefucker know about metaphor? You've had your sense of wonder amputated by this goddidit horseshit.
Spare me your pseudointellectualism. Pretentious horseshit peddled by those who can't answer a straight question.
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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 9:33 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 7:52 pm)PiousPaladin Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 7:49 pm)IATIA Wrote: I have read on the Inquisition and the Crusades, that is what cannot be tolerated. If I want to go to hell, that is my prerogative to choose through my free will and it is no business of yours. I do not intend to take you with me, only my friends.
Were it that simple. When you sin you may lead other observers to sin with you. That simply cannot be risked, that is why scandal is forbidden. Why do you think the church has gone to such great pains to prevent co habitation and keep the gossip of acts of sexual immorality in the confessional where they should have remained? Such revelations weaken the faith of those who hear them, and such an injury upon souls must be punished.
If your god has not the power to make me repent, what on this green earth makes you think that you have one iota of a chance?
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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 9:35 pm
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(June 28, 2015 at 9:33 pm)IATIA Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 7:52 pm)PiousPaladin Wrote: Were it that simple. When you sin you may lead other observers to sin with you. That simply cannot be risked, that is why scandal is forbidden. Why do you think the church has gone to such great pains to prevent co habitation and keep the gossip of acts of sexual immorality in the confessional where they should have remained? Such revelations weaken the faith of those who hear them, and such an injury upon souls must be punished.
If your god has not the power to make me repent, what on this green earth makes you think that you have one iota of a chance?
Somebody didn't read the whole thread 
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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 9:47 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 9:14 pm)PiousPaladin Wrote: Ehhh, forgot to share the news
http://atheistforums.org/thread-34272.html
(June 28, 2015 at 9:22 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 12:56 pm)PiousPaladin Wrote: It is a metaphor describing a mans natural yearning for God, although I can see in this heathen world you might struggle to hear it amongst the screaming materialism around you.
What the hell would any religious knucklefucker know about metaphor? You've had your sense of wonder amputated by this goddidit horseshit.
Spare me your pseudointellectualism. Pretentious horseshit peddled by those who can't answer a straight question.
Well, I don't feel so bad now.
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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 9:51 pm
Kudos though, for the eloquence of your last statement on the subject.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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RE: Ask a Traditional Catholic
June 28, 2015 at 9:53 pm
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(June 28, 2015 at 9:35 pm)PiousPaladin Wrote: Somebody didn't read the whole thread
I have no intentions of hiding my 'evil deeds' in any confessional, i.e., repent. I have no problem with cohabitation and usually I am in the kitchen with the women catching up on the gossip. (not a sports fan at all, except women's mud wrestling).
'acts of sexual immorality in the confessional' So that is where the priests do the little boys. I was wondering what those boxes were for.
See, I am evil and do not care who knows. Bwa ha ha ha. 
If you could ever indulge in some free-thinking and really think about what a true god would be (not that petty bitch in the bible), you would realize that if there were a god, even your insignificance would be insignificant.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
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Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
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