Why choose to say 'godless' and not say 'i don't know'?

[downbeatplumb]

See that depends on what you 'define' as good or bad, I love hurricanes and death can be a relief at times, both statements are true. See what I don't like about 'atheist' is that they keep taking this 'Christian' form of what god is...like he is a man. Which the all time best-selling fairy tale book aka the bible doesn't even support that idea, ironically. Someone can look at what God created a thunderstorm and say I can sleep at night the sound of the thunderstorm is relaxing and the person next door can say 'the sound of the thunderstorm keeps me awake', they can both blame god, not good nor bad, just is. Trust me, if man didn't screw up and build a greedy earth-destroying mansion in the middle of nowhere that keep lots of animal habitat would he, suffer from a weather disaster. I would say don't blame the hurricane that beautiful your dumbass was in the way.
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and your point is?

[savethedreams]

Faith is a stupid gesture. I don't put faith in anything.
You can hope for something, but putting faith in it is like saying you have faith that it will not rain the next day, but the weather forecast says it will. And ultimately, it does rain, and you just say "Well, that's just how God made it."

According to my dictionary on my iphone.. faith is defined by putting trust into someone, or putting trust into a belief that is not based on proof. So, to believe something and that is not 100% not we need air to breath as humans is 100% proven tested and true, then it is faith. If your an atheist you have faith that god doesn't not exist.

Well, if you put faith in something that is ultimately up to God, then why have Faith? Faith is misguided and only for the weak who can't see the REAL WORLD around them or the fact that sht isn't up to faith, it is up to their god what happens (if they believe in one).

Faith in a person, I have faith (synonym for trust) mom will pay my phone bill this month. I do have faith that the sun will shine tomorrow. So why would you trust your job to pay you for your work if it ultimately up to them rather they will pay you or not, well simply because they paid you in the past so you have faith it will continue that way.

Because there is no evidence in this universe that it was created by a God, it is safe to delcare it an Atheistic Universe.

Depends on what you define as God really. If GOD IS the universe, then how can you say there is no God? God comes in many different perspective not just western 'philosophy'. I say simply.. God is love, God is everything that he created and evolved, universe is eternal never began or ended. Lack of evidence that shows alien life existence doesn't suggestion that they don't exist, and atheist and scientist have no proof that natural selection wasn't created.

Can I say the same for other universes? Probably, but there are many definitions of God that don't require the Supernatural bleh'age, so I can't go on record and say all universes were naturally made on their own by means of natural universe makings.

I can't comment on something I don't know 100% (like air breathing is necessary for humans) true, so until I see another universe and visit like I visit the beach, kick my sandals off and sip a long island ice tea. I can't say. Is God/Yaweh/Allah there in another universe? Thats a yes or no question.

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See that depends on what you 'define' as good or bad, I love hurricanes and death can be a relief at times, both statements are true. See what I don't like about 'atheist' is that they keep taking this 'Christian' form of what god is...like he is a man. Which the all time best-selling fairy tale book aka the bible doesn't even support that idea, ironically. Someone can look at what God created a thunderstorm and say I can sleep at night the sound of the thunderstorm is relaxing and the person next door can say 'the sound of the thunderstorm keeps me awake', they can both blame god, not good nor bad, just is. Trust me, if man didn't screw up and build a greedy earth-destroying mansion in the middle of nowhere that keep lots of animal habitat would he, suffer from a weather disaster. I would say don't blame the hurricane that beautiful your dumbass was in the way.

and your point is?
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smh my point is, in response to what he said... "if good weather is a blessing from god then so is bad weather that kills people" and I said well not everybody thinks hurricanes are bad, to me they are beautiful, just people are in the way of one which leads to disaster, disaster is when people put themselves in a situation where they can kill themselves. Thats not gods fault, thats your fault.

[Paul the Human]

I don't think you fully comprehend what 'atheism' actually means. I am an atheist. That doesn't mean that I know there is no god, it only means that I do not believe there are any god(s). That is not reserved for the Judeo-Christian god, but for Zeus and Odin and Ra and every other 'god' that anyone has ever claimed exists.

One of the reasons I do not believe the contention that god(s) exist is that there is a complete lack of empirical evidence to support the claim (in my experience). A lack of evidence is not reason enough to say for sure that something doesn't exist, but it is enough to say that I don't believe that it exists. If convincing evidence to support the claim were presented, I would have to change my conclusion, but at this point, I have never seen any reason whatsoever to believe that god(s) exist or are even likely to exist.