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Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
#41
RE: Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
I'm a christian and to see this OP behave in this way just makes me shake my head. I truly believe even Jesus would have smacked him.
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#42
RE: Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
OP is troll my friend, a repeat offender. I wouldn't even call him a Christian because he's probably just online for the lols.

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#43
RE: Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
Quite obvious as he was banned within a day. Sad, just walk in a room and throw out crap claiming everyone who does not believe that to be morons. Sounds like a great way to have an intelligent conversation. :/

Glad you guys were on top of it. Weed out those that offer no constructive purpose Smile
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#44
RE: Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
Sadly we get an awful lot of those.

I'm glad you seem far more reasonable Smile
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#45
RE: Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
(July 15, 2015 at 10:34 pm)HiYou Wrote: I do not believe

Yep. Same here.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#46
RE: Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
(July 15, 2015 at 10:34 pm)HiYou Wrote: I do not believe the universe or universes could always have existed, because we are part of nature and therefore, if there was an infinite regress of cause and effects of nature, we would have had an eternity to come into being before now so we should have already happened. Self-contradictorily, we would never have existed because a past eternity would go on for eternity never reaching this point. A past eternity of cause and effects is a faulty construct.

I also don't believe the universe can start up from nothing, for that which does not exist can't cause anything as it doesn't exist. Nothing always leaves nothing from nothing.

I therefore believe that since nature can't start up from nothing nor always have existed, there is only one possibility that remains which is nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

I deem this uncreated Creator to be personal, intelligent and accessible because He can't be less than humans His creation who are likewise personal and accessible.

I dub thee "Fuckface". Fuckface is thy name.

Why do all the good ones come on when I'm resting my eye balls? And get banned before I can participate in the communal evisceration?  Surely, it is a Sign.
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#47
RE: Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
(July 16, 2015 at 1:11 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: I dub thee "Fuckface". Fuckface is thy name.

Why do all the good ones come on when I'm resting my eye balls? And get banned before I can participate in the communal evisceration?  Surely, it is a Sign.

We'll have to give you a heads up next time, and leave a little for you. Wink Though as far as trolls go, I found him to be a little boring. I could probably do better.
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#48
RE: Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
Yeah. This guy wasn't even creative.
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#49
RE: Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True
It's mind boggling that people like that don't understand that using "evidence" pulled from their book of nonsense, which they know you don't believe in, isn't going to make you believe them just for quoting it at you. If I really wanted, I could read the bible myself; having convenient bits and pieces thrown at me isn't going to make me accept it as truth.
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#50
Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not ...
(July 15, 2015 at 10:34 pm)HiYou Wrote: I do not believe the universe or universes could always have existed, because we are part of nature and therefore, if there was an infinite regress of cause and effects of nature, we would have had an eternity to come into being before now so we should have already happened. Self-contradictorily, we would never have existed because a past eternity would go on for eternity never reaching this point. A past eternity of cause and effects is a faulty construct.

I also don't believe the universe can start up from nothing, for that which does not exist can't cause anything as it doesn't exist. Nothing always leaves nothing from nothing.

I therefore believe that since nature can't start up from nothing nor always have existed, there is only one possibility that remains which is nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

I deem this uncreated Creator to be personal, intelligent and accessible because He can't be less than humans His creation who are likewise personal and accessible.

Please read the first part of this thread. It will explain everything.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-34813.html
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