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Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
No, I'm right, and you're both wrong. No takesies backsies.

If only we had a way to settle these kind of disputes...
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RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
Fuck me, he's a vegetarian as well. The list of reasons he annoys me grows ever longer...

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RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
Big Grin

Well I'm vegan, so I've out-spiritualized him there.
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RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(August 7, 2015 at 5:00 am)robvalue Wrote: No, I'm right, and you're both wrong. No takesies backsies.

If only we had a way to settle these kind of disputes...

OH NO! NO BACKSIES! MY ONLY WEAKNESS!!!!

*melts*
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RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: [...]They reject the obvious and blame those who tell the truth with talking bullshit. 

The only thing that's obvious here is the fact, that you're an uneducated moron. And I believe you are the only person, who rejects that.

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: No wonder that my reputation here is next to zero [...]

Well, of course - that's because you're an uneducated moron.

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I destroyed the dogma that man is omnivore.

No, you didn't.

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I show that nobody here knows the meaning of philosophy.

No, you didn't.

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I show that there is no evidence that when the body die also the consciousness die.

That's just stupid. And - no, you didn't. Also - you didn't show ANY proof, that consciousness can survive biological death of the body.

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I show that there can not be any real progress in the material-physical universe.

No, you didn't.

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I show that with the limited human consciousness it is not possible to understand
what there may be outside so all option are possible.

Just because "all option are possible" doesn't mean they're equally probable. Of course - I don't expect you to understand probability, since you don't seem to understand anything else.

The only person you've managed to convince so far is you. That doesn't mean you've "proven" or "shown" anything. It only means that you are too ignorant to comprehend just how wrong you are.

Have fun, stewing in your own stupidity.

Also - in the best interest of humanity - please, don't breed...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(August 7, 2015 at 5:00 am)robvalue Wrote: No, I'm right, and you're both wrong. No takesies backsies.

If only we had a way to settle these kind of disputes...

Well, we have the "last person to post wins" thread for a reason...
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is obvious that adults are reluctant to admit that they are wrong.
To admit it it would show a failure and most people are too proud
to admit a failure.
Beside their false believes are so entrenched that they find impossible to estirpate
from their mind the dogma.
So what they do?
They reject the obvious and blame those who tell the truth with talking bullshit. 

Dude. If you're talking about the existence of stuff (spirits etc.) then what you are saying is NOT OBVIOUS at all. We're talking about science here, a method that allows us to know stuff in a reasonable way. Simply stating that things are the way you say they are is not enough. You have the mindset of a conspiracy theorist

Let me ask you a simple question: do you believe in homeopathy?

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: No wonder that my reputation here is next to zero while those who procrastinate the dogma
(false truth) have a very high reputation.
I destroyed the dogma that man is omnivore.
I show that nobody here knows the meaning of philosophy.
I show that there is no evidence that when the body die also the consciousness die.
I show that there can not be any real progress in the material-physical universe.
I show that with the limited human consciousness it is not possible to understand
what there may be outside so all option are possible.
Well, what else i can add other than reject your unfounded criticism.
An impartial and independent board would surely prove you wrong but who care.
After all i am having a lot of fun by enlightened your failure.  Smile

You haven't shown jack shit. That is the problem.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is obvious that adults are reluctant to admit that they are wrong.
To admit it it would show a failure and most people are too proud
to admit a failure.
Beside their false believes are so entrenched that they find impossible to estirpate
from their mind the dogma.
So what they do?
They reject the obvious and blame those who tell the truth with talking bullshit. 
No wonder that my reputation here is next to zero while those who procrastinate the dogma
(false truth) have a very high reputation.
I destroyed the dogma that man is omnivore.
I show that nobody here knows the meaning of philosophy.
I show that there is no evidence that when the body die also the consciousness die.
I show that there can not be any real progress in the material-physical universe.
I show that with the limited human consciousness it is not possible to understand
what there may be outside so all option are possible.
Well, what else i can add other than reject your unfounded criticism.
An impartial and independent board would surely prove you wrong but who care.
After all i am having a lot of fun by enlightened your failure.  Smile

Rikky...le sigh...

You haven't shown anything but your own willful ignorance. You keep saying things, but you don't ever show them to be true from evidence. You simply try to belittle anyone who doesn't agree with you. Now, while that is one of my favorite argumentative tactics (let's face it, I'm a dick), it's also not the only one I use. Would you like to know why? Fuck it, I'll tell you anyway.

It's because by itself, it's a useless fallacy. The argument of "lol, you're just a dumbass who doesn't get it" can only be used if your position is proven to a reasonable degree of certainty. Otherwise it's just an ad hominem attack.

The only thing you have shown is that you have an appallingly weak grip of science, logic, and philosophy, and that you intend to make no effort to correct this when taken to task by people who clearly and evidently understand these fields significantly better than you do. While that's very human, it's also not very smart.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(August 7, 2015 at 8:02 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:
(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is obvious that adults are reluctant to admit that they are wrong.
To admit it it would show a failure and most people are too proud
to admit a failure.
Beside their false believes are so entrenched that they find impossible to estirpate
from their mind the dogma.
So what they do?
They reject the obvious and blame those who tell the truth with talking bullshit. 
No wonder that my reputation here is next to zero while those who procrastinate the dogma
(false truth) have a very high reputation.
I destroyed the dogma that man is omnivore.
I show that nobody here knows the meaning of philosophy.
I show that there is no evidence that when the body die also the consciousness die.
I show that there can not be any real progress in the material-physical universe.
I show that with the limited human consciousness it is not possible to understand
what there may be outside so all option are possible.
Well, what else i can add other than reject your unfounded criticism.
An impartial and independent board would surely prove you wrong but who care.
After all i am having a lot of fun by enlightened your failure.  Smile

Rikky...le sigh...

You haven't shown anything but your own willful ignorance. You keep saying things, but you don't ever show them to be true from evidence. You simply try to belittle anyone who doesn't agree with you. Now, while that is one of my favorite argumentative tactics (let's face it, I'm a dick), it's also not the only one I use. Would you like to know why? Fuck it, I'll tell you anyway.

It's because by itself, it's a useless fallacy. The argument of "lol, you're just a dumbass who doesn't get it" can only be used if your position is proven to a reasonable degree of certainty. Otherwise it's just an ad hominem attack.

The only thing you have shown is that you have an appallingly weak grip of science, logic, and philosophy, and that you intend to make no effort to correct this when taken to task by people who clearly and evidently understand these fields significantly better than you do. While that's very human, it's also not very smart.

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RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: No wonder that my reputation here is next to zero while those who procrastinate the dogma
(false truth) have a very high reputation.

Or it could just be that you suck.

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I destroyed the dogma that man is omnivore.

You borrowed an argument from analogy from someone who is simply wrong.
https://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I show that nobody here knows the meaning of philosophy.

You repeatedly challenged others to define philosophy in what was obviously a loaded question leading to your usual bollocks about spirituality.  When nobody fell for your childish ploy, you declared yourself the victor.

Congratulations.  You're king of the playground.

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I show that there is no evidence that when the body die also the consciousness die.

You poo-pooed what evidence there is and again declared yourself the winner.

Congratulations.  You are master of declaring things!

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I show that there can not be any real progress in the material-physical universe.

Again you downplayed the evidence of real progress in the last few centuries and again declared yourself correct.

I'm sensing a theme here.

(August 7, 2015 at 4:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: I show that with the limited human consciousness it is not possible to understand
what there may be outside so all option are possible.

I must have missed this.  No worries.  We have you to declare yourself correct again!
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