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Apologetics open challenge
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It's no worse than people who insist on quoting the text wall of China just to put "Lol!" or whatever at the end. And far easier on the blood pressure.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
OK so time within this universe is uni-dimensional and linear, this is what what makes causality work.
At the Quantum level time is granular divided into discreet blocks of 1 Planck length, thus the earliest point we can model to is known as Planck-Time. The apologists invariably try to force an assumption that the rules of this universe (ie; uni-dimensional linear time) also apply outside this universe. As yet no evidence for this state has been presented so has to be viewed as speculative. Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?-Esquilax Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.  
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Rob, don't let the BS make you crazy!
Sometimes, to beat a monster, you have to become one! DON'T!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
So, to beat my monster I have to become a dick? That explains a lot, actually.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Nice.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.  (September 25, 2015 at 9:17 am)Stimbo Wrote: So, to beat my monster I have to become a dick? That explains a lot, actually. I see what you did there.
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
 RE: Apologetics open challenge
September 25, 2015 at 10:21 am
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2015 at 10:22 am by Neo-Scholastic.)
Has anything actually been refuted in this thread? I think MK's ontological claim has not been directly addressed as a metaphysical problem. The OP boasts to reveal the LOGIC of the theistic proofs, but the skeptics have instead chosen to respond with EMPIRICAL observations of the natural world. In other words, they have failed to show that the MK's arguments are in themselves illogical. As for now, my counter-challenge to either formally debate the 5W has been tacitly declined and my offer to defend any of the 5W selected by the skeptics has gone unanswered. Will any skeptics step up to the plate?
(September 25, 2015 at 10:07 am)lkingpinl Wrote:(September 25, 2015 at 9:17 am)Stimbo Wrote: So, to beat my monster I have to become a dick? That explains a lot, actually. Note to self: close the curtains.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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