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Options for origin of universe
July 30, 2015 at 8:32 pm
Ok guys. Yes my views say I am a Christian but I want to out of the gate preface this by saying I am not posting this to try and prove my hypothesis I'm interested in what your views are the possible origins of the universe
To me personally there are three options
1. There is a God that created everything
2. It exploded from "nothing" or some unknown natural means
3. It has always existed (even in a cyclical universe theory of expanding and contracting)
Would you agree or do you have a different list or more to add?
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RE: Options for origin of universe
July 30, 2015 at 8:36 pm
4. I don't know.
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RE: Options for origin of universe
July 30, 2015 at 9:27 pm
I don't know but #1 is utterly ridiculous.
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Options for origin of universe
July 30, 2015 at 9:32 pm
#1 is not even a possibility.
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RE: Options for origin of universe
July 30, 2015 at 9:38 pm
It has to be #2 unless ofcourse we believe in an "unnatural universe".
No matter how weird, mysterious and wonderful nature is, there must be a "natural" explanation.
If not, then we're just talking Disneyland style magic.
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RE: Options for origin of universe
July 30, 2015 at 9:39 pm
(July 30, 2015 at 8:32 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Ok guys. Yes my views say I am a Christian but I want to out of the gate preface this by saying I am not posting this to try and prove my hypothesis I'm interested in what your views are the possible origins of the universe
To me personally there are three options
1. There is a God that created everything
2. It exploded from "nothing" or some unknown natural means
3. It has always existed (even in a cyclical universe theory of expanding and contracting)
Would you agree or do you have a different list or more to add?
If we're just listing hypothesizes I get:
1. Everything always existed in some form or another.
2. Everything came into existence out of nothing either all at once or in stages.
3. Somethings always existed and some things came into existence out of nothing either all at once or in stages.
God could be inserted into any of the three possibilities. Many theist descriptions of creation begin with a preexisting chaos from which a god or gods created the world (possibility number one). The Greek mythology follows this idea. You could also make god one of the first things that came into existence out of nothing and then have god create or order everything else (possibility number 2). Or, as appears to be the current Christian idea, you could say god always existed and god caused some things to be created out of nothing (possibility number 3). Or still staying within possibility number three you could say that matter always existed and god popped into existence and made the universe out of eternally existing matter. But god is not really a separate hypothesis, just an variation of one of the three possibilities, because if god exists, god is part of the universe.
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RE: Options for origin of universe
July 30, 2015 at 9:40 pm
(July 30, 2015 at 8:32 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Ok guys. Yes my views say I am a Christian but I want to out of the gate preface this by saying I am not posting this to try and prove my hypothesis I'm interested in what your views are the possible origins of the universe
To me personally there are three options
1. There is a God that created everything
2. It exploded from "nothing" or some unknown natural means
3. It has always existed (even in a cyclical universe theory of expanding and contracting)
Would you agree or do you have a different list or more to add?
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The simplest (and I think, most straight forward) answer to the question is: "I've no fucking clue."
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RE: Options for origin of universe
July 30, 2015 at 10:55 pm
The universe evolved from snot sneezed out of the nose of an enormous mutant star goat.
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RE: Options for origin of universe
July 31, 2015 at 2:36 am
The naive notions of time and causality which underlie your choice of options there are not applicable. I think the list is nonsensical.
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