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Atheism is the absence of reason..
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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 10:58 am
Remind them that you are not the one with an invisible friend.
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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 11:11 am
OP - it's a really stupid argument and makes the usual mistakes.

How about "faith is pretending to know what you don't know"? If the believer had evidence, they'd trip all over themselves to present it. But they don't, so they can't, and must rely on trying tear down the atheist position. A position that is mere skepticism of claims without evidence. The same evidence we get for unicorns, sasquatches, little green men and the numerous gods we've invented over the centuries; and a similar position taken. Provide sufficient evidence and we'll talk.
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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 11:24 am
Misrepresentation and fallacious reasoning from an apologist? I'M SHOCKED


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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 11:29 am
(August 4, 2015 at 9:56 am)Vault Boy Wrote: Is this some kind of circular reasoning?
Not so much circular reasoning as it is a word game. They like to play this one a lot because they can inundate an unsuspecting 'debater' with a lot of fancy philo-jargon that makes it hard for them to come back at. Kinda like the shotgun tactics Ham, Comfort, et al use in "debates".

And the last part, he wants you to prove atheism exists? All you have to do for that is provide one atheist.
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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 11:37 am
It's sort of a Gish gallop. By the time you get to the part Tibs pointed out where he misuses his own terms, he hopes you have forgotten what he asked you to agree on.
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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 11:43 am (This post was last modified: August 4, 2015 at 11:43 am by Longhorn.)
If you look at it closer, it's just the typical misconception about atheism, that we all are gnostic atheists and claim to know whether god exists, only reinforced with a dishonest word game.
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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 11:46 am
What I want to know is...

What the hell does he hope to achieve?

Does he expect us to all just agree that we can't be atheists anymore so we have to be Christians or whatever brand of delusion he subscribes to? What pathetic tactics.
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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 11:49 am
Wow, I am delighted to see so many good replies. A wonderful welcome to an obviously wonderful forum.   Tongue

Thank you all. I used some of the content of your posts for my reply. Now I'm really curious of his answer even though I'm sure he will again ignore many of "my/your" arguments or won't answer at all. Those discussions with believers never really lead to anything.

I keep you posted Big Grin

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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 11:50 am
You're very welcome!

I hope you stick around, and good luck drumming some sense into that guy Smile
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RE: Atheism is the absence of reason..
August 4, 2015 at 11:51 am
(August 4, 2015 at 11:46 am)robvalue Wrote: What I want to know is...

What the hell does he hope to achieve?

Does he expect us to all just agree that we can't be atheists anymore so we have to be Christians or whatever brand of delusion he subscribes to? What pathetic tactics.

Something like:

1. Atheists are liars. LIARS!
2. Lying is a sin!
3. Get down on your stinkin' lousy knees for Jesus.
4. Go on, kissy kissy and apologize. Apologize. That's right. Apologize to your Lord, Master and future BFF.
5. Go forth and sin no more!
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