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Higher IQ's
#11
RE: Higher IQ's
(August 5, 2015 at 3:14 am)Alex K Wrote: Is that really so?
Yes, however most claim that it is due to religious people being born in poorer countries with less access to education. I don't accept this explanation, because, when religious and non religious people are compared in the same countries there is a higher IQ average in the non religious side.
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#12
RE: Higher IQ's
Religious people are dumber only by proxy of their religious beliefs.

They view anything logical as contradictory to their beliefs and thus they refuse to learn anything as a result. Rather, they would prefer to reside in the delusional comfort that religion provides.
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#13
RE: Higher IQ's
(August 5, 2015 at 3:26 am)Shuffle Wrote:
(August 5, 2015 at 3:14 am)Alex K Wrote: Is that really so?
Yes, however most claim that it is due to religious people being born in poorer countries with less access to education. I don't accept this explanation, because, when religious and non religious people are compared in the same countries there is a higher IQ average in the non religious side.
Can you show the studies?
The unspoken premise when people claim this always seems to be that dumber people tend to choose religion, and that this is a sign that religion is the inferior viewpoint. But I think that even if the data showed a significant correlation, that that's not necessarily how it works.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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#14
RE: Higher IQ's
I've heard there is a link between education and non-religion. I think this is probably more significant than with IQs.

Kitan: I was talking bollocks Tongue I think you're right, I've noticed a trend in very intelligent people having "compensating" factors, very often social. I'm not sure if this is something that has been studied in detail, I'd be interested if it has.
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#15
RE: Higher IQ's
(August 5, 2015 at 3:35 am)Alex K Wrote: Can you show the studies?
The unspoken premise when people claim this always seems to be that dumber people tend to choose religion, and that this is a sign that religion is the inferior viewpoint. But I think that even if the data showed a significant correlation, that that's not necessarily how it works.


Quote:In a 2013 meta-analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, of 63 scientific studies about IQ and religiosity, a negative relation between intelligence and religiosity was found in 53, and a positive relation in the remaining ten.
 Found this on Wikipedia, the most reliable source on the interwebs!

I agree with you. That is not how it works. I believe that the smarter you are, the more skeptically geared you are towards religion.

(August 5, 2015 at 3:03 am)Kitan Wrote: I'm around the 140 range with my IQ.  I'm average.
I have a 164, which is on the border between genius and high genius.
Hmph
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#16
RE: Higher IQ's
I'm like a strong 2/12
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#17
RE: Higher IQ's
I'm bordering between "average idiot" and "village idiot" but I don't agree. I believe I'm definitely one of the smarter idiots out there.
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#18
RE: Higher IQ's
(August 5, 2015 at 4:03 am)Shuffle Wrote:
(August 5, 2015 at 3:35 am)Alex K Wrote: Can you show the studies?
The unspoken premise when people claim this always seems to be that dumber people tend to choose religion, and that this is a sign that religion is the inferior viewpoint. But I think that even if the data showed a significant correlation, that that's not necessarily how it works.


Quote:In a 2013 meta-analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, of 63 scientific studies about IQ and religiosity, a negative relation between intelligence and religiosity was found in 53, and a positive relation in the remaining ten.
 Found this on Wikipedia, the most reliable source on the interwebs!

I agree with you. That is not how it works. I believe that the smarter you are, the more skeptically geared you are towards religion.

(August 5, 2015 at 3:03 am)Kitan Wrote: I'm around the 140 range with my IQ.  I'm average.
I have a 164, which is on the border between genius and high genius.
Hmph

Do they measure IQs differently outside of Europe, because every other person on the internet claims to have 160, but according to the scales I know that is so exceedingly rare that one shouldn't encounter such people regularly. Who is administering all these tests anyhow?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#19
RE: Higher IQ's
140 used to be the "genius" bar when I was younger, and I'm only thirty-five.
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#20
RE: Higher IQ's
There's a simple formula for determining your IQ:

IQ = X + 5

Where X is what the other guy just said his IQ was.
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