atheism and children

[Javaman]

Catholic_Lady

Frankly, the answers you've so far provided are just not good enough to change anyone's mind

So what's your straight forward, short reply to my question about the punishments doled out to rapists and IVf'ers?

And do you admit that an analogy is, in fact, a comparison? Like the dictionary says?

I have already addressed this. You just don't like my responses, but as Tarty accurately said, I don't care lol.

No you haven't. A response is not the same as an answer, no matter how convenient you happen to find it to simply provide a response.

The fact that you are personally unable to provide any sort of moral distinction between IVF and rape is rather disturbing. It doesn't speak well to biblical morality.

Do you agree that you were wrong to claim that analogy was not a comparison?

[Tartarus Sauce]

Then take to your own advice and stop engaging her. It's not her job to bend to your expectations anymore than it's your obligation to respect her beliefs.

But it is her obligation to follow the forum rules, which she isn't doing.

1. This is a discussion forum.

This means that members should interact with each other in a proper discussion, and not purposely / repeatedly evade rebuttals made to them. Whilst members are not forced or required to answer every post addressed to them, ignoring them all and continuing to post similar content will fall in line with our "No Spam" rule. This includes posting links / copy-pasted content / scripture verses repeatedly, without adding your own comments or being relevant to the thread. 

"This is our primary rule and all other rules fall in line with this concept. The staff reserves the right to analyze each case in the spirit of this rule if said case doesn't violate the exact wording of other rules."

That's the important bit from that rule you left out. Other rules analyzed in the case evaluation include trolling, flaming, spamming and the like, none of which C_L is responsible for. 

But if you really just can't stand the way she wishes to participate in the forum so much that you want her to be held subject to a forum team review, go ahead and file a report on the perceived rule violation. I wouldn't hold your breath on it though.

[Catholic_Lady]

Catholic_Lady

Frankly, the answers you've so far provided are just not good enough to change anyone's mind

So what's your straight forward, short reply to my question about the punishments doled out to rapists and IVf'ers?

And do you admit that an analogy is, in fact, a comparison? Like the dictionary says?

I have already addressed this. You just don't like my responses, but as Tarty accurately said, I don't care lol.

No you haven't. A response is not the same as an answer, no matter how convenient you happen to find it to simply provide a response.

The fact that you are personally unable to provide any sort of moral distinction between IVF and rape is rather disturbing. It doesn't speak well to biblical morality.

Do you agree that you were wrong to claim that analogy was not a comparison?

Lol, see, this is what I'm talking about.

I already told you. Yes, rape is a million times worse than IVF, and on a whole other level. I said that the very first time I brought up rape. Yet you're accusing me of never having "made a moral distinction."

And I already told you, my analogy about stealing $10 wasn't meant to say that IVF is the equivalence of stealing. The only reason I used stealing is because I needed an act that you would all find immoral, so I said stealing. This doesn't mean stealing is anything like IVF. I was trying to explain a concept to you about end results.

You may not like those answers, but to say I did not answer you is dishonest. This is why I'm not going to put much effort into having a super in depth discussion with you, and instead, am just answering things as simply as possible. It's not worth my time.

[rexbeccarox]

Then take to your own advice and stop engaging her. It's not her job to bend to your expectations anymore than it's your obligation to respect her beliefs.

But it is her obligation to follow the forum rules, which she isn't doing.

1. This is a discussion forum.

This means that members should interact with each other in a proper discussion, and not purposely / repeatedly evade rebuttals made to them. Whilst members are not forced or required to answer every post addressed to them, ignoring them all and continuing to post similar content will fall in line with our "No Spam" rule. This includes posting links / copy-pasted content / scripture verses repeatedly, without adding your own comments or being relevant to the thread. 

I guess you missed rule #12:

Protecting Rule-breakers
If you are aware of a member breaking the rules, you are obligated to report them to the staff, either via the Report System or by sending one of the staff a PM. Protecting rule-breakers (especially sockpuppets of currently banned members) will not be tolerated, and anyone caught doing it will be warned and possibly banned as a result. All instances will be carefully considered by staff to determine if this was willfully done.

As far as I'm concerned, she hasn't broken rule #1, but you thinking she has and not reporting it is absolutely against the rules.

[Javaman]

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Lol, see, this is what I'm talking about.

I already told you. Yes, rape is a million times worse than IVF, and on a whole other level. I said that the very first time I brought up rape. Yet you're accusing me of never having "made a moral distinction."

And I already told you, my analogy about stealing $10 wasn't meant to say that IVF is the equivalence of stealing. The only reason I used stealing is because I needed an act that you would all find immoral, so I said stealing. This doesn't mean stealing is anything like IVF. I was trying to explain a concept to you about end results.

You may not like those answers, but to say I did not answer you is dishonest. This is why I'm not going to put much effort into having a super in depth discussion with you, and instead, am just answering things as simply as possible. It's not worth my time.

So now rape is a million times worse than IVF... not just one thousand times worse? So will a rapist receive one million times the eternal punishment of the eternal punishment an IVF'er receives? If not, your god's justice is unjust.

I've lost track of how many times I've asked you about the difference between the punishment for rapists and IVF'ers. Why do you refuse to answer?

You already said that IVF was just like stealing with your original analogy. That was your analogy... you can't just pretend you never made the claim without looking like a deceptive douchebag. You said it was the same thing. Walking back from that makes you a liar. And that's a sin according to your beliefs.

Dishonest may not be the best adjective to describe you, but the alternatives are hardly better.

Inherently inconsistent is the most complimentary adjectival phrase I can come up with.

But still, it's a polite way of saying you're full of shit with your moral judgements, but too oblivious to realize it.

[Catholic_Lady]

If anyone has any more contribution to the thread topic at hand, I'm still interested in hearing your thoughts.

[Catholic_Lady]

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Lol, see, this is what I'm talking about.

I already told you. Yes, rape is a million times worse than IVF, and on a whole other level. I said that the very first time I brought up rape. Yet you're accusing me of never having "made a moral distinction."

And I already told you, my analogy about stealing $10 wasn't meant to say that IVF is the equivalence of stealing. The only reason I used stealing is because I needed an act that you would all find immoral, so I said stealing. This doesn't mean stealing is anything like IVF. I was trying to explain a concept to you about end results.

You may not like those answers, but to say I did not answer you is dishonest. This is why I'm not going to put much effort into having a super in depth discussion with you, and instead, am just answering things as simply as possible. It's not worth my time.

So now rape is a million times worse than IVF... not just one thousand times worse? So will a rapist receive one million times the eternal punishment of the eternal punishment an IVF'er receives? If not, your god's justice is unjust.

I've lost track of how many times I've asked you about the difference between the punishment for rapists and IVF'ers. Why do you refuse to answer?

You already said that IVF was just like stealing with your original analogy. That was your analogy... you can't just pretend you never made the claim without looking like a deceptive douchebag. You said it was the same thing. Walking back from that makes you a liar. And that's a sin according to your beliefs.

Dishonest may not be the best adjective to describe you, but the alternatives are hardly better.

Inherently inconsistent is the most complimentary adjectival phrase I can come up with.

But still, it's a polite way of saying you're full of shit with your moral judgements, but too oblivious to realize it.

One "million" is the exact wording I used the first time around.

Have a good day.

[IATIA]

I see CL is back.  

I answered (B).  I love the hell out of kids as long as when it time for them to go home, they do not sit down.  I do not have or ever intend to have any offspring.  I worked in children's hospitals and was very good with the kids.  I taught several Doctors how to treat and respect the kids.

[Catholic_Lady]

I see CL is back.  

I answered (B).  I love the hell out of kids as long as when it time for them to go home, they do not sit down.  I do not have or ever intend to have any offspring.  I worked in children's hospitals and was very good with the kids.  I taught several Doctors how to treat and respect the kids.

Sure thing: http://atheistforums.org/thread-35229.html 

Thanks for the response! Sounds like you've done some good work, sir!

[Ravenshire]

At 32 and using more than 1 kind of BC, it was really unexpected.

Omg you just gave me a panic attack!!! Lol

I want to get my tubes tied but I can't afford it. Plus the asshole docs who will try and shame me for want to do it before I have kids because "what if you change your mind!?!?"

(emphasis is mine)

Remind he asshole that tubal ligation can be reversed (something he already knows quite well) and, more importantly, it's not his decision to make.

I'll never understand why people have to be such assholes.