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The good work of ISIS
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I don't see the problem. Secular organizations are good, regardless of who's organizing or creating them.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
No, they have to actually do something good to be good. Otherwise they are just reputation squatters whose existence creates a false impression that things are not quite as bad as they actually are.
 Quote:Founded in 1998 by former Muslims, Wait. Wait!!! I've got it. They should sue for trademark infringement. That will teach those murdering fuckers a lesson. Hire a good, jew, lawyer and..... and..... I think I see the problem. 
I think it's time to find a new acronym
Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way - Christopher Hitchens
I don't get how they mean "secularise Islamic society"
Step one is stop calling it "Islamic society". That's secularism 101. That said I do believe countries which are currently Islamic can be secularised. If Christianity (yknow, that religion that used to routinely burn people alive) has been reduced down to some blubbering Republicans, the same can happen to Islam.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane" - sarcasm_only
"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie
It took centuries though. In the meantime, we have to keep bombing them.
(August 11, 2015 at 5:02 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I don't get how they mean "secularise Islamic society" Islamic society is similar to Christian society. Europe is a Christian continent and European countries are Christian. This doesn't mean that we live in a theocracy, it's simply the religion with higher cultural influence. Even Dawkins said himself that Britain is a Christian country in the sense that it's the most influential religion even for people who don't believe.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
 RE: The good work of ISIS
August 12, 2015 at 6:54 am
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2015 at 6:57 am by Mudhammam.)
(August 11, 2015 at 1:31 pm)Chuck Wrote: When you say the "good work" of this ISIS, what has it done?Aside from their stated practical goals, which I would like to both hope and assume have positively impacted their target audience, including some confused or skeptical persons indoctrinated in Islam, I can't really say.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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