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Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
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Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
It's an example of how clearly wrong ideals can, when backed up by cultural influence, remove any thoughts of reason or in this case, the most basic instinct of caring for your own children.

You can be sure that he is still absolutely convinced he did the right thing.
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RE: Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
(August 10, 2015 at 1:39 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote: It's an example of how clearly wrong ideals can, when backed up by cultural influence, remove any thoughts of reason or in this case, the most basic instinct of caring for your own children.

You can be sure that he is still absolutely convinced he did the right thing.

See, I'm having a hard time believing he was able to override his instinct in the moment. I suspect some amount of foul play or a history of a troubled relationship.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

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#23
RE: Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
(August 10, 2015 at 1:44 pm)Exian Wrote:
(August 10, 2015 at 1:39 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote: It's an example of how clearly wrong ideals can, when backed up by cultural influence, remove any thoughts of reason or in this case, the most basic instinct of caring for your own children.

You can be sure that he is still absolutely convinced he did the right thing.

See, I'm having a hard time believing he was able to override his instinct in the moment. I suspect some amount of foul play or a history of a troubled relationship.
Perhaps but it's not as though it's an isolated incident. These things happen every day but most are unreported and not many at all are in view of a public that are not subject to the same sick culture.
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#24
RE: Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
(August 10, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Exian Wrote: Why wasn't he jumping in?
Ulterior motive? Asian? Asian preference for male children? Asian daughter? Asian abortion rate for female fetuses? First opportunity not to be charged with murder?

It's kind of sick that my brain works this way.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
(August 10, 2015 at 2:02 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(August 10, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Exian Wrote: Why wasn't he jumping in?
Ulterior motive? Asian? Asian preference for male children? Asian daughter? Asian abortion rate for female fetuses? First opportunity not to be charged with murder?

It's kind of sick that my brain works this way.

What I have bolded seems the most likely to me. Instead of his distain being personal, it was cultural, and allowed him to be prepared for a moment like this. Hopefully he is removed from society<--- even though this statement would be ironic to make, since my assumption is that the problem is systemic.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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#26
RE: Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
The only thing that makes sense to me is that the father was not aware of the amount of danger his daughter was in or else he would be jumping in himself rather than preoccupying himself with the actions of others. Someone so bound up in ideas of "honour" etc that they would rather their daughter die than be touched by rescuers, would surely not be letting her swim in a public beach in the first place (unless she was wearing a burka and it dragged her down).

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Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon

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RE: Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
(August 10, 2015 at 1:14 pm)Exian Wrote:
(August 10, 2015 at 12:56 pm)Thena323 Wrote: That was my initial thought. There is likely more to this story besides a misguided sense of honor.

I suspect the same thing. The only thought going through my head would be getting my daughter to safety, and you could barely call it a thought. My beliefs and opinions on things like honor wouldn't have even weighed in.

Perhaps she was wearing a slutty bikini?

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#28
RE: Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
(August 10, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Exian Wrote: Why wasn't he jumping in?

Because these fucking purity culture ideals, and the whackjobs that hold them, are entirely reductive. Like any conservative, religiously based ideals, they exist only to digest other people, to poke and prod and nitpick and reduce everyone until they fit in a small enough box that their simple-minded adherents no longer feel threatened that complexity exists.

So of course his first act was to obstruct positive forward progress; his beliefs have trained him to begin every scenario by acting out negatively in defense of his values. It's more important that things fit into the box, his daughter was (clearly!) more valuable for how her intact honor reflected upon him than as a person. When all you have is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail, and these ass backwards honor culture ideas give you exactly one reaction to work with: "Stop people from even thinking differently to you, no matter the cost."
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RE: Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
Wonder what the sentance was?
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RE: Dad lets daughter die, rather than be touched by 'strange' rescuer
Lifeguards touching daughter = not OK

Child molesting mullah touching daughter = OK

Jihadi fitting daughter with suicide vest to bring death to loaded Israeli school bus = WE HAVE A WINNER !!!!
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