Need to Vent - Thanks Religious Assholes

[KevinM1]

EP, did you not read Sal's first post? He moved out and is currently, temporarily living with his grandmother. He wants to find a job in order to actually be on his own, but has knee and back problems in addition to colitis, and panic attacks which stem directly from his father's bullshit, so he knows his options are limited. And, finally, this thread's stated purpose is for him to vent. To express his frustrations so he DOESN'T wallow in them in real life.

So, it's not like Sal hasn't taken steps to address his situation. Furthermore, stepping back and becoming emotionally detached from a situation is far easier said than done, to the point where that 'advice' (a term which can only be used in the loosest sense in this case) as well as your assessment that he's blowing things out of proportion are trite, callous, and miss the mark completely.

Everyone is different. They have different thresholds regarding how much pain - physical or emotional - they can handle. Telling someone to simply toughen up is purely dismissive, and if that's how you're going to be, perhaps you should simply remain silent, because you're not helping.

[Excited Penguin]

You either rely on your father and therefore need to put up with his personality for the time being or you don't and you make yourself suffer needlessly. Either way crying about it won't change a thing. Your father is who he is and I perfectly understand where you're coming from because of my personal experience, but you need to actively seek solutions instead of destroying your health with him. My encouragements stand as they are but they are not enough. I get the feeling that you're way too confortable with merely wallowing in self-pity(so to speak).

Also, your problems are trivial - don't blow them out of proportion. Life is harsh and some people are difficult to live with. Big deal. Get over yourself and try to find a sollution. There is no such thing as unconditional happiness.

Where do you get that he's not doing everything you've suggested?

Because of his detailed response to my suggestions? It seems he did try but didn't put any soul into it. That's all.

[Excited Penguin]

EP, did you not read Sal's first post?  He moved out and is currently, temporarily living with his grandmother.  He wants to find a job in order to actually be on his own, but has knee and back problems in addition to colitis, and panic attacks which stem directly from his father's bullshit, so he knows his options are limited.  And, finally, this thread's stated purpose is for him to vent.  To express his frustrations so he DOESN'T wallow in them in real life.

So, it's not like Sal hasn't taken steps to address his situation.  Furthermore, stepping back and becoming emotionally detached from a situation is far easier said than done, to the point where that 'advice' (a term which can only be used in the loosest sense in this case) as well as your assessment that he's blowing things out of proportion are trite, callous, and miss the mark completely.

Everyone is different.  They have different thresholds regarding how much pain - physical or emotional - they can handle.  Telling someone to simply toughen up is purely dismissive, and if that's how you're going to be, perhaps you should simply remain silent, because you're not helping.

I don't agree that everyone is very different in this regard. Toughening up can never hurt. Being a pussy might though and disastrously so. This world wasn't made for crybabies, like it or not. Now I am sympathetic but I am actually trying to help him. He's either not telling the whole truth here or he likes his current situation. That's my take on it, like it or not. As I said though, I come from a good place and truly understand what he's going through. I went through this kind of thing and know what it's like. I have far more to help him with than any of you do, apparently. All he needs to do is take my advice.

[rexbeccarox]

You obviously haven't read anything he's written.

[Excited Penguin]

I read what he said. We may have reached different conclusions based on that though. You may have taken him at his word and thus disregarded any possible biases he may have. That's a polite way of saying you're naive.

[Longhorn]

Oh fuck off ep. Don't make this thread about you. You're not helping.

[rexbeccarox]

So assuming he's being disingenuous is better than taking what he says at face value?

[Excited Penguin]

So assuming he's being disingenuous is better than taking what he says at face value?

If it seems to me like he's doing it, then yes, of course.

[rexbeccarox]

Your ego is immense, EP.

[Excited Penguin]

Your ego is immense, EP.

I'll take that as a compliment, as indeed it should be.