A reason to believe?

[Watson]

Did EvF and fr0do just...what has happened he-...this is...wow.

[Edwardo Piet]

Well now hopefully it's clear that fr0d0 does believe he has evidence for God, through the Bible and personal experience, etc. It's just not "empircal" or "provable" evidence - I have tried to explain many times before that I'm not asking for any specific kind of evidence, just any evidence at all. Somehow it didn't work before - hopefully it's clear this time.

Now I don't understand why fr0d0 thinks that scripture is evidence for God but that's another matter.

fr0d0,

The next thing to ask you I think would be...

Scripture aside, what "experiences" have you had that you think is evidence for God somehow? (Since I just am never going to grasp how you think some words in a holy book are evidence, I'll question you on the experience matter). I don't see how personal experience can be evidence, but it would be interesting to know what they are anyway.

EvF

[tavarish]

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Well now hopefully it's clear that fr0d0 does believe he has evidence for God, through the Bible and personal experience, etc. It's just not "empircal" or "provable" evidence - I have tried to explain many times before that I'm not asking for any specific kind of evidence, just any evidence at all. Somehow it didn't work before - hopefully it's clear this time.

Now I don't understand why fr0d0 thinks that scripture is evidence for God but that's another matter.

fr0d0,

The next thing to ask you I think would be...

Scripture aside, what "experiences" have you had that you think is evidence for God somehow? (Since I just am never going to grasp how you think some words in a holy book are evidence, I'll question you on the experience matter). I don't see how personal experience can be evidence, but it would be interesting to know what they are anyway.

EvF

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I've asked him this exact question before in my thread:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-3335.html

Check out the answer.

[Edwardo Piet]

Which answer, I get lost in a web of fr0d0 talking about all sorts of stuff, where's the part where he talks about his experiences?

EvF

[tavarish]

Which answer, I get lost in a web of fr0d0 talking about all sorts of stuff, where's the part where he talks about his experiences?

EvF

I'll give you a hint: He doesn't. He just goes on to a bunch of BS no one asked about.

[fr0d0]

Nice one Evie

Tavarish seems to be obsessed with the notion that belief must entail some supernatural event. He can't face the truth.

Why not talk about something concrete we can discuss rather than personal thoughts? As I've said, your worldview shapes your understanding. What I might find to be grateful for God for, you might find makes you happy. It's also important to attribute accurately.

The Bible is strictly about the Abrahamic God right? There is no conclusive evidence on either side that could prove either way. If you think there is, then I'd suggest you're too entrenched in one side's arguments. Considered theologically, I'd say that the bible presents a coherent and logical model.