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Sincerely honest question
#21
RE: Sincerely honest question
The few people I have met as "new Xtians" never describe being "convinced".  They describe the process as "I was searching . . . ".
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#22
RE: Sincerely honest question
(September 6, 2015 at 4:03 pm)Thena323 Wrote: I assume that some of the forum theists here have had some degree of success in swaying others towards religious belief. I'm curious as to which type of non-believer theists find easier to persuade: Life-long atheists, ex-theists, or theists of different religious backgrounds altogether?

The most success seems to be had with drug and alcohol rehab programs. The rest is really not people converting but people that were nominally christian taking it more seriously.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#23
RE: Sincerely honest question
(September 6, 2015 at 4:03 pm)Thena323 Wrote: I assume that some of the forum theists here have had some degree of success in swaying others towards religious belief. I'm curious as to which type of non-believer theists find easier to persuade: Life-long atheists, ex-theists, or theists of different religious backgrounds altogether?

Considering the internet and science and google it would be harder in this day and age to convince someone god exists once they turn atheist.
That is saying a lot because of scientific progress and the person who states god made everything is wrong.
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#24
RE: Sincerely honest question
(September 6, 2015 at 8:29 pm)Thena323 Wrote: If anyone wants to claim multiple conversions (online, offline or both), I'm not going to dispute it. I'm simply interested in their thoughts on which kind non-believer is the toughest nut to crack, so to speak.

 I've had some to come to me and tell me that because of my actions around them they decided to accept Christ as their savior, I'm no one person was worried about his life the other I do not know what his circumstances were. I'm just glad they both made the decision, there was no pressure, no preaching just me living the life Christ wanted, in my opinion this is just one way of many and my preferred way, however if someone asks me to explain things to them I will, pressuring doesn't work well and usually doesn't make for a lasting decision. God called me to be a teacher to those who already were Christians ie. making disciples.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#25
RE: Sincerely honest question
(September 6, 2015 at 5:06 pm)Losty Wrote:
(September 6, 2015 at 4:53 pm)Chad32 Wrote: That's a key factor in conversion. emotional or physical vulnerability.

Or financial

Did you know if you send god $80 USD to his post office box, he will erase your debt and grant you freedom?
Debts? better pray to Mr.Robot
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#26
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The only people I've had try and convince me of religious stuff face to face was in school, and then JWs. No one even offered any sort of arguments, they just talked like it is all simply true. I've gone very easy on the JWs by just telling them I'm not interested.
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#27
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(September 7, 2015 at 1:47 am)Godschild Wrote:
(September 6, 2015 at 8:29 pm)Thena323 Wrote: If anyone wants to claim multiple conversions (online, offline or both), I'm not going to dispute it. I'm simply interested in their thoughts on which kind non-believer is the toughest nut to crack, so to speak.

 I've had some to come to me and tell me that because of my actions around them they decided to accept Christ as their savior, I'm no one person was worried about his life the other I do not know what his circumstances were. I'm just glad they both made the decision, there was no pressure, no preaching just me living the life Christ wanted, in my opinion this is just one way of many and my preferred way, however if someone asks me to explain things to them I will, pressuring doesn't work well and usually doesn't make for a lasting decision. God called me to be a teacher to those who already were Christians ie. making disciples.

GC
I'm guessing that your approach/interaction with non-believers offline might be different than it would be in this sort of format. In a general sense, do you think that a previous history of religious belief makes a person more likely or less likely to be receptive to the message you want to convey?
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#28
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(September 7, 2015 at 7:38 am)Thena323 Wrote:
(September 7, 2015 at 1:47 am)Godschild Wrote:  I've had some to come to me and tell me that because of my actions around them they decided to accept Christ as their savior, I'm no one person was worried about his life the other I do not know what his circumstances were. I'm just glad they both made the decision, there was no pressure, no preaching just me living the life Christ wanted, in my opinion this is just one way of many and my preferred way, however if someone asks me to explain things to them I will, pressuring doesn't work well and usually doesn't make for a lasting decision. God called me to be a teacher to those who already were Christians ie. making disciples.

GC
I'm guessing that your approach/interaction with non-believers offline might be different than it would be in this sort of format. In a general sense, do you think that a previous history of religious belief makes a person more likely or less likely to be receptive to the message you want to convey?

 A persons receptiveness is due to their own desire to know, most people are not going to consider salvation unless they see it might be a good thing and no one is going to make a decision for salvation without the convection of the Holy Spirit (calling of the Father). If pushed to say who would be more receptive I would say those who had been previously exposed to religion, however I'm not privy to all of what God does or can do.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#29
RE: Sincerely honest question
(September 7, 2015 at 1:34 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(September 7, 2015 at 7:38 am)Thena323 Wrote: I'm guessing that your approach/interaction with non-believers offline might be different than it would be in this sort of format. In a general sense, do you think that a previous history of religious belief makes a person more likely or less likely to be receptive to the message you want to convey?

 A persons receptiveness is due to their own desire to know, most people are not going to consider salvation unless they see it might be a good thing and no one is going to make a decision for salvation without the convection of the Holy Spirit (calling of the Father). If pushed to say who would be more receptive I would say those who had been previously exposed to religion, however I'm not privy to all of what God does or can do.

GC
I was thinking that may be the case, at least to some degree, while acknowledging that there are several other factors involved. 
My question was never meant get to pigeonhole anyone. I'm just interested in hearing  theistic opinions/perspectives on the matter. Thanks for responding.
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#30
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I've not been here too long.  But that said, I've not seen a shred of evidence towards anybody converting.  And ol' Rando once claimed success, but lack of evidence isn't new there.

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