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Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
#21
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
(September 9, 2015 at 1:10 pm)robvalue Wrote: I find the symbol of the cross incredibly offensive and I'd rather not see it at all anywhere, but I doubt my offense is taken into consideration.

Eh, I don't care about it much anymore, most around here are just mild catholics and they keep to themselves. Funny how this stuff happens alot across the pond.
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#22
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
(September 9, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(September 9, 2015 at 1:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How is it an act of aggression?

Because it would tell me (if I were an American): "This courthouse/city hall is not for you. You are a second class citizen (at best)"

I don't think that's what the intention is.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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#23
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
That's a cool demon statue! I want one.

I assume it's the wrong 10 commandments, as usual?
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#24
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
(September 9, 2015 at 1:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(September 9, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Alex K Wrote: Because it would tell me (if I were an American): "This courthouse/city hall is not for you. You are a second class citizen (at best)"

I don't think that's what the intention is.

If someone hits me in the face with a well-aimed blow and then tells me that there was no intention to hurt me, that helps precious little to ameliorate the situation Smile
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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#25
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions... But I don't believe in hell, so the thing is rather moot.
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#26
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
(September 9, 2015 at 1:27 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(September 9, 2015 at 1:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think that's what the intention is.

If someone hits me in the face with a well-aimed blow and then tells me that there was no intention to hurt me, that helps precious little to ameliorate the situation Smile

Lol. Well, punching someone in the face is inherently offensive. You may be offended by someone else's symbol of morality, but a symbol is not an offensive thing in and of itself if its meaning can be different for different people. So it is definitely possible for someone to not mean "you don't belong here and you are second class" by putting up the 10 commandments.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#27
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
So have you aske the satanists what their symbol means? Maybe there are a few that don't mean to scare you.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

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For context, this is the previous verse:

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#28
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
C_L, what else could it possibly mean if you put the religious code that people are judged by outside of a government building like a courthouse or government capitol? If I am convicted of a crime or am petitioning for something, and I don't honor your god, and I don't care for your stone age version of morality, is the message being sent t that I am to be judged fairly?
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#29
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
"Do this list of stuff or you'll go to hell" seems very aggressive and presumptuous to me.

The demon is just asking people to chill their jets and looking damn fine while he's at it. That's my interpretation anyway.
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#30
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
Quote:but a symbol is not an offensive thing in and of itself if its meaning can be different for different people.
Then why is it only symbols you approve of which get to be on public land?  Who made you the arbiter?

Keep your bloody religion in your homes and churches and you'll have no trouble from me.
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