Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.

[Salacious B. Crumb]

Where did I admit that?

[Catholic_Lady]

Where did I admit that?

Well first I know you didn't because in your last couple of posts you said a lot of things that were not true at all in regards to my position on this.

But in post #332, you specifically say "I did not read this whole thread."

[Catholic_Lady]

Ok, I get it now.

All you wanted to do is make a thread, hoping a few atheists would agree with you, then use those atheists which would confirm your beliefs that this was an act out of spite, and ignore everyone else’s points that they have been making. You’re not interested in everyone’s point of view, you want to get a few atheists on your side, and not have a real debate about the real issue. That’s exactly what you have been doing. I feel the satanists did this to stand up against the christians, to say, “If you’re going to put up another statue, we’re going to put one up as well”, with the hopes they would stop doing it, which would lead to more religious freedom, and less religious privilege. I guarantee you if the christians agreed to take their statues down, the satanists would follow suit. You completely missed similar arguments to these, because you’re so mad about a mythical statue being erected near your mythical statue. Grow up. Be an adult, and be honest, and actually want all religious plaques, statues, or whatever off of a public land. You can have all the statues you want on your property and in your church, and you can pray all day, and worship in your house and church all day if you want, no one is stopping you. We don’t want to see any of them

I get that you’re mad, I get that you don’t care as long as everyone’s beliefs are represented (although that’s not happening). And you have said that you’re not mad that the 10 commandments haven’t been taken down.

I don’t understand how you would know whether or not that if someone wanted to put a statue of vishnu right next christ, that it was an act out of spite or not. It very well could have been, and very well may not have been, how would you know? You’re just jumping to conclusions.

If someone building a statue next to yours is meant to be offensive, and that bothers you, then why doesn’t it bother you that we’re here deliberately mocking religion? Why are you here, if people are attacking your faith? If it was actually so offensive, you wouldn’t be here. And, we all know by now, that it’s not for discussion. You want people to agree with you when you make your points, and when they don’t, you completely shut your brain off, and completely block out any rational arguments that are sent your way that contradict your own views.

EDIT: I'm not going through the whole thread, but one of your fallacies, which may be considered an appeal to authority, is on #291. The people you quote aren't an authority on atheism, especially not on an opinion of a statue; you're just picking and choosing what you want to hear.

So I just tried breaking down your post and correcting you on allll the things you said about my position that were completely untrue. But stopped because it became too overwhelming. Honestly, reading this post makes me think you did not read (or at least did not pay attention to or did not understand) a single thing I've been saying here for the last 35 pages. Lol, like, I don't even know where to start or what to say to this. You are saying to me "you think this..." and "you feel this way about this..." and "you were hoping for this"... 

...And I'm just like uhhh, no I'm not and no I don't and that's not what my position is at all lol.  

What you're doing is what I've seen referred to here as "mind f*cking". When you tell the other person what it is they're thinking and what their position is. Which is very annoying, especially when I've said the exact opposite about pretty much all of it.

[MTL]

I came here to post, but ended up only giving kudos. Well, to everyone who pointed out the absurdity of CL's position.

On a side note, I'm proud, as a Vancouverite, that the statues that were erected... no pun intended.

I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit I only have the vaguest recollection of the erections happening.... again, no pun intended.

fellow Canadian.....

[Salacious B. Crumb]

Where did I admit that?

Well first I know you didn't because in your last couple of posts you said a lot of things that were not true at all in regards to my position on this.

But in post #332, you specifically say "I did not read this whole thread."

Here's the actual quote from #332

"I'm not going through the whole thread, but one of your fallacies, which may be considered an appeal to authority, is on #291."

Anywhere in there, does it say that I didn't read the whole thread? I actually read the whole thread, from the first post to the last. I could have been a little more clear to say, ' I'm not going through the whole thread again to look for all of your fallacies, but here's this one. There's more of them '

Is this how you read your bible too? Jesus kills a fig tree, and you interpret it as, ' Jesus saved a fig tree from dying ' .

If you misquote me again, I'm going to report your dishonest ass.

[Catholic_Lady]

Well first I know you didn't because in your last couple of posts you said a lot of things that were not true at all in regards to my position on this.

But in post #332, you specifically say "I did not read this whole thread."

Here's the actual quote from #332

"I'm not going through the whole thread, but one of your fallacies, which may be considered an appeal to authority, is on #291."

Anywhere in there, does it say that I didn't read the whole thread? I actually read the whole thread, from the first post to the last. I could have been a little more clear to say, ' I'm not going through the whole thread again to look for all of your fallacies, but here's this one. There's more of them '

Is this how you read your bible too? Jesus kills a fig tree, and you interpret it as, ' Jesus saved a fig tree from dying ' .

If you misquote me again, I'm going to report your dishonest ass.

Fair enough. I apologize for the misunderstanding of your quote, as I thought you saying "I am not going through the whole thread" to mean you are not going to read it. 

But please know that your post was a complete misrepresentation of my sentiments on the issue.

[Salacious B. Crumb]

Ok, fine. I'm sorry if I was misrepresenting you.

[Natachan]

Wow. I actually feel somewhat as if my faith in humanity has been restored by the reconsidering of C_L's position.

I personally have no stake in the Satanists monument. I find the placement of the 10C monuments deeply offensive as their stated purpose is often, "this is a christian nation and this monument pays homage to that." It is implicitly a statement that my views as a non-xtian are lesser, and that my place is lesser. Read some of the comments by Oklahoma legislators defending this thing if you don't believe me, or some comments by regular citizens of the state (ignoring, for the longest time, that the litigant in the lawsuit that got it taken down was a minister). The monument was coming down anyway, so the actions of the temple have little bearing on it.

However as an act to show the insensitivity of these religious monuments on public grounds as say well done.

[Catholic_Lady]

Ok, fine. I'm sorry if I was misrepresenting you.

It's ok. I appreciate this.

[Losty]

This stuff freaks me out like nothing else, but nonetheless it's kind of intriguing in a morbid sort of way. 

I saw this story on facebook this morning and was wondering what you guys thought:

http://www.thv11.com/media/cinematic/vid...t-capitol/

I was also wondering what you guys thought of the actual Satanic Temple religion. They're all Atheists who use the symbol of the Demon to represent personal freedoms and their opposition to the idea of God:

 http://thesatanictemple.com/faq

Satanism is a broad term referring to a group of ideological and philosophical beliefs. Satanism includes symbolic association with, or admiration for, Satan, whom Satanists see as an inspiring and liberating figure.

Here is a quote from one of the satanists involved in sharing a satanist children's book which speaks out against bullying, and uses words like friendship, love, happiness, and acceptance.

"As an organized religion, we feel it is our function to actively provide outreach, to lead by example, and to participate in public affairs wheresoever the issues might benefit from rational, Satanic insights. As Satanists, we all should be guided by our consciences to undertake noble pursuits guided by our individual wills. We believe that this is the hope of all mankind and the highest aspiration of humanity."

Really scary....