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"All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
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RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
(September 12, 2015 at 2:08 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:
(September 12, 2015 at 1:59 pm)ScepticOrganism Wrote: You get inside the lab, you leave religion behind the door.

That's not being an atheist though, that's being professional. 

You said atheism should be mandatory, not scientific skepticism which is a given for the field.

It should be mandatory when you're inside the lab. Your beliefs are simply not gonna be compatible with the scientific process and method. Everything else is secondary.
"organizing atheists has been compared to herding cats, because they tend to think independently and will not conform to authority" -- Richard Dawkins
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#42
RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
I didn't get the point of the piece. It's like he started out wanting to say something anti-religion and then just dribbled off.
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RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
(September 12, 2015 at 3:02 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I didn't get the point of the piece.  It's like he started out wanting to say something anti-religion and then just dribbled off.

That's Krauss for you. A lot of talk about basically nothing. I hope he is better at his actual job than he is at everything else he loves to run his mouth on.
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#44
RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
To believe that everyone should think like you is the reason the world is torn apart. I find this idea abhorrent and ridiculous not to mention it lacks scientific basis as some brains have a tendency to embrace the supernatural regardless of the evidence (otherwise the percentage of elite scientists who believe in god would be 0%, but it isn't).
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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#45
RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
Someone should tell Krauss, that he should stick to what he knows best. It is the Dawkins effect.
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#46
RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
My fiancé is a scientist, a microbiologist. She's got research to get on with and doesn't really care about it.
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RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
(September 12, 2015 at 4:06 pm)LastPoet Wrote: It is the Dawkins effect.

Don't know what the Dawkins effect is supposed to be, but I would rather call it the Harris effect. Running ones mouth on every given opportunity.
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#48
RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
I don't really understand the criticism of Krauss here. If you're a scientist, you should treat religion in the same way that you treat other claims. He's basically saying that in doing just that he's been labeled a militant atheist, and that other scientists, instead of adhering to the principles they avow, have discouraged him by either remaining silent or vocalizing their disapproval of his efforts.

So, what's the problem?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
(September 12, 2015 at 3:40 pm)abaris Wrote:
(September 12, 2015 at 3:02 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I didn't get the point of the piece.  It's like he started out wanting to say something anti-religion and then just dribbled off.

That's Krauss for you. A lot of talk about basically nothing. I hope he is better at his actual job than he is at everything else he loves to run his mouth on.

Yes, he is. He's not the bestest physicist ever, but he is very good. Incidentally, my PhD thesis is based on the work of one of his PhD students.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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#50
RE: "All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists"
Doesn't surprise me. If Christians can make great scientists, why not a religion obsessed anti-theist?
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