Posts: 12229
Threads: 125
Joined: January 11, 2010
Reputation:
45
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 9:28 am
Ask the one on the left:
"If I asked the other guy what was behind his door, what would he say?"
The liar would say the other guy would say he had the tiger.
The honest one would say he would say he had the check.
This was on an episode of Doctor Who (The Tom Baker years) and The Ricky Gervais Show.
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
Posts: 13051
Threads: 66
Joined: February 7, 2011
Reputation:
92
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 9:57 am
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2015 at 9:58 am by Faith No More.)
(September 16, 2015 at 9:15 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: Oh, do be fair. Where is this thread? Do you have a link to it?
http://atheistforums.org/thread-35944.ht...gence+test
I'm actually the one that first brought it up with a video from the movie "Labyrinth." Do I get a rep for that?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Posts: 2791
Threads: 107
Joined: July 4, 2015
Reputation:
35
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 9:59 am
Do we get a rep for reading the responses, since the question has been answered? I liked Kingpin & Magi's answers, but Iroscato probably should get a rep for all the hard work!
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
Posts: 3676
Threads: 354
Joined: April 12, 2015
Reputation:
42
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 10:04 am
(September 16, 2015 at 9:22 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 9:06 am)Iroscato Wrote: I would ask both:
"If I asked you which door leads to the check, which one would you point to?"
Wouldn't work as they can both show their own doors. You have to ask each guard what the other one's reply would be to which door is the correct one.
Basically
D1 - G1 - tells lie
D2 - G2 - tells truth
Assume D1 is the correct door
Ask each guard which door the other guard will show:
In case of G1(liar): G2 will point to D1 hence G1 will lie and point to D2
In case of G2(honest): Will correctly say that G1 will point to D2.
So you just have to do the opposite to both and enter D1.
This only works if you assume both guards know of each other's honesty or dishonesty. It would work if you only ask one. The key word is "always." One guard always tells the truth. The other always lies. They can't do otherwise.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
Posts: 3676
Threads: 354
Joined: April 12, 2015
Reputation:
42
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 10:34 am
I read the first page of the other thread. It's not quite the same question and you can't get the right answer to my question based on it. So I'm giving out reps as promised. I'll give reps to the whistle blowers too for their love of fairness. No reps for reading but I'll give everyone a kudos. .
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
Posts: 13051
Threads: 66
Joined: February 7, 2011
Reputation:
92
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 10:44 am
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2015 at 10:44 am by Faith No More.)
(September 16, 2015 at 10:34 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: I read the first page of the other thread. It's not quite the same question and you can't get the right answer to my question based on it. So I'm giving out reps as promised. I'll give reps to the whistle blowers too for their love of fairness. No reps for reading but I'll give everyone a kudos. .
The OP isn't the same, but you'll see that I brought the riddle up in the third post. It was subsequently brought up and answered two more times in that thread.
You're giving out reps for cheating!
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Posts: 15452
Threads: 147
Joined: June 15, 2015
Reputation:
88
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 10:53 am
(September 16, 2015 at 9:19 am)lkingpinl Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 9:03 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: For one rep and to be induction into the Rhondazvous International Hall of Geniuses, answer the following riddle. One rep for the answer and one more rep for why that answer works.
There are two doors. Both doors are identical except behind one door is a check for 10 thousand dollars. Behind the other door is a man-eating tiger. In front of each door stands a guard. Each guard is exactly identical except one guard always tells the truth while the other guard always lies. To find out which door has the check you get to ask one guard one question. What question will you ask to which guard?
The question I would ask: "If I asked what door lead to freedom, what door would the other guard point to?"
If you asked the truth-guard, the truth-guard would tell you that the liar-guard would point to the door that leads to death.
If you asked the liar-guard, the liar-guard would tell you that the truth-guard would point to the door that leads to death.
Therefore, no matter who you ask, the guards tell you which door leads to death, and therefore you can pick the other door.
This.
Though I probably never would have figured it out lol. Freaking genius.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
Posts: 3676
Threads: 354
Joined: April 12, 2015
Reputation:
42
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 11:03 am
(September 16, 2015 at 10:44 am)Faith No More Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 10:34 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: I read the first page of the other thread. It's not quite the same question and you can't get the right answer to my question based on it. So I'm giving out reps as promised. I'll give reps to the whistle blowers too for their love of fairness. No reps for reading but I'll give everyone a kudos. .
The OP isn't the same, but you'll see that I brought the riddle up in the third post. It was subsequently brought up and answered two more times in that thread.
You're giving out reps for cheating! Oh, but that's impossible. Kingphil is a Christian. Christians don't cheat.
Defend your honor, sir!
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
Posts: 2421
Threads: 30
Joined: July 16, 2015
Reputation:
50
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 11:08 am
(September 16, 2015 at 11:03 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 10:44 am)Faith No More Wrote: The OP isn't the same, but you'll see that I brought the riddle up in the third post. It was subsequently brought up and answered two more times in that thread.
You're giving out reps for cheating! Oh, but that's impossible. Kingphil is a Christian. Christians don't cheat.
Defend your honor, sir!
It's the classic knives/knaves. The caveat is that word "always". If it were sometimes, your probability would be 50%, but because one "always" lies and the other "always" tells the truth, you will know the correct answer by asking one guard what the other will say about a specific door.
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
Posts: 3676
Threads: 354
Joined: April 12, 2015
Reputation:
42
RE: Riddle: Win One Rep by Answering this Riddle
September 16, 2015 at 11:09 am
(September 16, 2015 at 10:53 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 9:19 am)lkingpinl Wrote: The question I would ask: "If I asked what door lead to freedom, what door would the other guard point to?"
If you asked the truth-guard, the truth-guard would tell you that the liar-guard would point to the door that leads to death.
If you asked the liar-guard, the liar-guard would tell you that the truth-guard would point to the door that leads to death.
Therefore, no matter who you ask, the guards tell you which door leads to death, and therefore you can pick the other door.
This.
Though I probably never would have figured it out lol. Freaking genius. Ooh, I'ma tell. You're cussing on the sly.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
|