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October 12, 2015 at 3:03 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 2:45 pm)Evie Wrote: I have had a brain scan... no physical symptoms...
No I've heard voices twice and the other time I don't even remember the details of anymore and it was milder.
I've been on mental health wards before for other reasons but that would have been more than enough to admit to a ward.
And no it wasn't atheist doctors saying that because a bunch of them were religious and as far as I know my Psych was a Christian too. To be a fucking professional you have to keep your beliefs separate from fucking medicine and health.
ok i was just wondering often people just bypass the MD and go straight to a psych , yes i agree that wouldve landed you on a psych ward if you went to your psych and told him/her that . psychiatrists are not absolute gurus of knowledge their diagnosis is based on unscientific personal opinion , personal beliefs and opinions is definately what determines a diagnosis of the mind . that is why one psychiatrist will diagnose you and another psychiatrist will consider it a misdiagnosis and have the opinion that it is something else entirely .
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October 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm
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That's what happened actually....I had several psychs and my latest one said I had been misdiagnosed for 7 years.
But the whole idea with being unbiased is to NOT be affected by "God" bullshit.
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October 12, 2015 at 3:19 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 1:38 pm)Evie Wrote: I was already experiencing mental health problems at the time. If I had told people it was God talking to me I would have been sent straight back to the acute mental health ward.
did you even bother getting any physical tests done by a real doctor such as a brain scan to determine that you did not have a brain tumor or other physical illness causing this or did you just automatically assume you were crazy and make a straight beeline to a psychiatrist ?
Do you think mental illness is not a real thing?
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October 12, 2015 at 3:20 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm)Evie Wrote: That's what happened actually....I had several psychs and my latest one said I had been misdiagnosed for 7 years.
But the whole idea with being unbiased is to NOT be effected by "God" bullshit.
or atheist bullshit
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October 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 3:20 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm)Evie Wrote: That's what happened actually....I had several psychs and my latest one said I had been misdiagnosed for 7 years.
But the whole idea with being unbiased is to NOT be effected by "God" bullshit.
or atheist bullshit
What exactly is not believing in god bullshit? Atheist bullshit makes no sense to me, nor does deist bullshit. Theist bullshit definitely exists.
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October 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 3:19 pm)Losty Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: did you even bother getting any physical tests done by a real doctor such as a brain scan to determine that you did not have a brain tumor or other physical illness causing this or did you just automatically assume you were crazy and make a straight beeline to a psychiatrist ?
Do you think mental illness is not a real thing?
it is i just dont think its the ONLY possibility , considering God and tumors exist .
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October 12, 2015 at 3:23 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 3:19 pm)Losty Wrote: Do you think mental illness is not a real thing?
it is i just dont think its the ONLY possibility , considering God and tumors exist .
You think god exists. It is not a fact and you cannot prove it so there's no sense in saying it as if it were a fact.
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October 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm
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(October 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm)Losty Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 3:20 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: or atheist bullshit
What exactly is not believing in god bullshit? Atheist bullshit makes no sense to me, nor does deist bullshit. Theist bullshit definitely exists.
if a psychiatrist does not believe in God that limits the ability to accurately diagnose someone just like a doctor who excludes all scientific discovery within the last 50 years cannot make an accurate diagnosis because his education is incomplete.
(October 12, 2015 at 3:23 pm)Losty Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: it is i just dont think its the ONLY possibility , considering God and tumors exist .
You think god exists. It is not a fact and you cannot prove it so there's no sense in saying it as if it were a fact.
also there is no conclusive scientific proof that God does not exist.
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October 12, 2015 at 3:30 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm)Losty Wrote: What exactly is not believing in god bullshit? Atheist bullshit makes no sense to me, nor does deist bullshit. Theist bullshit definitely exists.
if a psychiatrist does not believe in God that limits the ability to accurately diagnose someone just like a doctor who excludes all scientific discovery within the last 50 years cannot make an accurate diagnosis because his education is incomplete.
I disagree. Being an atheist doesn't discount your ability to believe that others can believe in god. People don't get mental diagnosis just for believing in god or even believing that god speaks to them.
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October 12, 2015 at 3:33 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 3:23 pm)Losty Wrote: You think god exists. It is not a fact and you cannot prove it so there's no sense in saying it as if it were a fact.
also there is no conclusive scientific proof that God does not exist.
It is impossible to prove a negative. In most circumstances we accept a lack of evidence to be a good enough reason to not believe in something. But I never stated there is no god as if it were some sort of fact. You said there is a god. If there is for certain then prove it, if you can't then why do you insist on saying it as if it were a fact?
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