Personal relationships with deities

[robvalue]

Atlas: I don't understand your message to me, sorry.

You seem to be going to incredible lengths to convince me I'm in a relationship I know nothing about. I take it you have some evidence to back all this up?

There was a girl I used to know (27 or so years ago when I didn't look like an overcooked potato) who was telling everyone I was her girl friend. I found out about this after 6 months and was a bit confused as I had not seen her at all in all that time and had only been the uncooperative recipient of one of her kisses once. Is this relationship something like that. Gods pining over you and bragging to his friends.

It sounds like it! Minus the kiss. If I'm in a relationship with God, it's entirely one way. He's watching me, sending coded messages that look exactly like nothing at all, sending people to all tell me contradictory things about him, and having me as his slave. From my point of view, nothing is happening. That's not a relationship; that's having a demented stalker.

[jenny1972]

insight that two people get at the same time that is the same , or not at the same time but when shared with the other is a perfect addition/clarification of the other persons insight .

This happens between people who know each other well very frequently.  With twins, all the time.  It's simply similar thought processes and language constructs.  C'mon, toaster guru, you can be more specific.

and then there are situations where the insight is not a result of knowing the other persons thoughts since the thoughts are not from the other person and are completely new and different ,and the insight they get is also not from them and also completely new . not a known characteristic of either person .

[Angrboda]

How is this anything that your own mind couldn't produce?

[drfuzzy]

This happens between people who know each other well very frequently.  With twins, all the time.  It's simply similar thought processes and language constructs.  C'mon, toaster guru, you can be more specific.

and then there are situations where the insight is not a result of knowing the other persons thoughts since the thoughts are not from the other person and are completely new and different ,and the insight they get is also not from them and also completely new . not a known characteristic of either person .

See, that's easy enough to put to a test!  The test subjects just have to be recorded receiving these messages while placed in a situation where they cannot see or hear each other.  Simple.  So do it.  Record whatever puts you and this other person in the proper mental state in detail (so it can be replicated), set up the screens and rooms and video cameras, and you've got it!

[jenny1972]

and then there are situations where the insight is not a result of knowing the other persons thoughts since the thoughts are not from the other person and are completely new and different ,and the insight they get is also not from them and also completely new . not a known characteristic of either person .

See, that's easy enough to put to a test!  The test subjects just have to be recorded receiving these messages while placed in a situation where they cannot see or hear each other.  Simple.  So do it.  Record whatever puts you and this other person in the proper mental state in detail (so it can be replicated), set up the screens and rooms and video cameras, and you've got it!

except that there is currently no machine that can record and identify and evaluate thoughts so i dont know how it could be tested with the current technology that exists . and what would the video cameras be used for exactly ? 

[drfuzzy]

See, that's easy enough to put to a test!  The test subjects just have to be recorded receiving these messages while placed in a situation where they cannot see or hear each other.  Simple.  So do it.  Record whatever puts you and this other person in the proper mental state in detail (so it can be replicated), set up the screens and rooms and video cameras, and you've got it!

except that there is currently no machine that can record and identify and evaluate thoughts so i dont know how it could be tested with the current technology that exists . and what would the video cameras be used for exactly ? 

But you don't need a machine -- well, actually, you'd be using a Duke-University type study they use for psychics.   But two video cameras, separation of the subjects, and impartial assistants - that's all you need.   And we can even take vids on our cell phones now.  Once you prove two people, separately, got the same message at the same time, you're off and running!   You could easily get funding to use brain scan machines after that.  And that seriously, honestly, sounds like a fun study.  I'm not playing with you.  I'd help.

[jenny1972]

except that there is currently no machine that can record and identify and evaluate thoughts so i dont know how it could be tested with the current technology that exists . and what would the video cameras be used for exactly ? 

But you don't need a machine -- well, actually, you'd be using a Duke-University type study they use for psychics.   But two video cameras, separation of the subjects, and impartial assistants - that's all you need.   And we can even take vids on our cell phones now.  Once you prove two people, separately, got the same message at the same time, you're off and running!   You could easily get funding to use brain scan machines after that.  And that seriously, honestly, sounds like a fun study.  I'm not playing with you.  I'd help.

psychics are able to control when the phenomenon takes place its controlled by their own ability not dependent on another , a psychic is able to control when it happens by their own mental effort . we could be there for a long time waiting since its not something the humans control . but if someone is interested in organizing and funding it and doesnt mind waiting for an uncertain amount of time id be interested in doing it .

[Reforged]

Really? Elaborate.

insight that two people get at the same time that is the same , or not at the same time but when shared with the other is a perfect addition/clarification of the other persons insight .

Thats weird. I've had that alot. Like when I was watching a news report in a chip shop on David Beckham and thought to myself "wanker". Then this other guy five seconds later watching the broadcast next to me said "Twat."
Was God speaking to both of us?

[Edwardo Piet]

Of course...

... don't you know that God's primary message is to teach the world that David Beckham is both a wanker and a twat!

[Reforged]

Of course...

... don't you know that God's primary message is to teach the world that David Beckham is both a wanker and a twat!

Hes a tanker.