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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 5:41 am
Simple question: why should I care if Christianity is true? I'm quite happy with how I'm living my life.
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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 5:43 am
(September 20, 2015 at 5:14 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: If I had even a tenth the arrogance they claim that atheists do, I'd be going to Christian forum after Christian forum and doing to them what they do to us.
Only you'd be insta-perma-banned.
(September 20, 2015 at 5:20 am)TheThinkingCatholic Wrote: It is a lack of righteousness that leads a person to reject belief in God.
You're a fucking idiot. Didn't we just chase you off of TTA? Your context is only a couple of thousand years out of date. It is lack of righteousness that requires god. Get with the fucking times.
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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 5:43 am
(September 20, 2015 at 5:32 am)abaris Wrote: I didn't look any further than Scientific Accuracy for the bible. Clear? On what grounds?
Fulfilled Prophecy. Clear? Well, since there are people believing Nostradamus to be accurate, we can chalk this point up to makebelief.
Archeological findings? What exactly? On what grounds does archeology support the bible. Unless it's only about the society of the time. Please, don't bring up the Pilate stone or anything onn that lines. That Pilate was a real person doesn't do anything to proving the bible.
Usual bullshittery, delivered with pseudo science and pseudo evidence.
And on a side note, you should take a good hard look at the 30/30 rule.
And I just absolutely love this.You just gave me a whole bunch of question's
let me confirm that to you.
What are the fulfilled prophecy that prove the Bible?
What are the archaeological findings and how do they support the Bible?
What is the scientific support of the Bible?
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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 5:44 am
(September 20, 2015 at 5:37 am)TheThinkingCathol ic Wrote: I just absolutely love this you just gave me, a whole bunch of question's?
Let me confirm that to you
Why did God allow genocide?
Why did God do blood sacrifice's?
Why God allow slavery or misogyny
Why did God punish Canaan?
Now because I don't want to waste time,I will have to copy and paste,but please don't try to change the subject and go into that.Thank You
I didn't change the subject. You made a bald assertion that the reason atheists are atheists is because we're afraid of God's moral judgment.
But I find your God, as described by the Bronze Age priests who made him up, to be a morally repugnant concept.
It is beneath my own sense of moral behavior toward my fellow humans.
I find the religion you push degrading to humanity and morally offensive.
It is compounded when you come here, onto our forum, making false claims about atheists.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 5:45 am
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(September 20, 2015 at 5:41 am)robvalue Wrote: Simple question: why should I care if Christianity is true? I'm quite happy with how I'm living my life.
A very excellent question and I will answer That.Thank You
(September 20, 2015 at 5:43 am)houseofcantor Wrote: (September 20, 2015 at 5:14 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: If I had even a tenth the arrogance they claim that atheists do, I'd be going to Christian forum after Christian forum and doing to them what they do to us.
Only you'd be insta-perma-banned.
(September 20, 2015 at 5:20 am)TheThinkingCatholic Wrote: It is a lack of righteousness that leads a person to reject belief in God.
You're a fucking idiot. Didn't we just chase you off of TTA? Your context is only a couple of thousand years out of date. It is lack of righteousness that requires god. Get with the fucking times.
The real reason why I got kicked out of the other forum,is because of ignorant and dishonest atheist's but here am expecting the opposite.
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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 5:55 am
I don't think I'm interested in Randy 2.0.
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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 5:55 am
Yes. Because of "ignorant and dishonest atheists". Tell yourself that ten more times, and it will become true.
It couldn't possibly be that you come onto our boards with falsehoods about atheism, spam a giant page of half-truths and total misrepresentations (my personal favorite on your list is that the "life-changing power" of Islam is terrorism, you bigoted ignoramus), and then declare that we object to your barbaric Canaanite blood-god because we really, secretly believe it to be true.
You present arguments that aren't even good versions of the tripe we have debunked here, time and time again, as if it is new, and then you try to play the martyr card about how angry we are at God, when we're really just angry at your arrogance and ignorance.
People like you are the bottom of the cesspool.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 5:55 am
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(September 20, 2015 at 5:44 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (September 20, 2015 at 5:37 am)TheThinkingCathol ic Wrote: I just absolutely love this you just gave me, a whole bunch of question's?
Let me confirm that to you
Why did God allow genocide?
Why did God do blood sacrifice's?
Why God allow slavery or misogyny
Why did God punish Canaan?
Now because I don't want to waste time,I will have to copy and paste,but please don't try to change the subject and go into that.Thank You
I didn't change the subject. You made a bald assertion that the reason atheists are atheists is because we're afraid of God's moral judgment. (no that's not what I said.I said What people reject is the idea of a Creator who demands morality from His creation. Rather than struggle against a guilty conscience, some people reject the idea of God altogether.Am talking about some atheist's not everyone.)
But I find your God, as described by the Bronze Age priests who made him up, to be a morally repugnant concept.
It is beneath my own sense of moral behavior toward my fellow humans.
I find the religion you push degrading to humanity and morally offensive.
It is compounded when you come here, onto our forum, making false claims about atheists.
From here I pick up another question.
Is God made up?
Is Religion degrading society?
(September 20, 2015 at 5:55 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Yes. Because of "ignorant and dishonest atheists". Tell yourself that ten more times, and it will become true.
It couldn't possibly be that you come onto our boards with falsehoods about atheism, spam a giant page of half-truths and total misrepresentations (my personal favorite on your list is that the "life-changing power" of Islam is terrorism, you bigoted ignoramus), and then declare that we object to your barbaric Canaanite blood-god because we really, secretly believe it to be true.
You present arguments that aren't even good versions of the tripe we have debunked here, time and time again, as if it is new, and then you try to play the martyr card about how angry we are at God, when we're really just angry at your arrogance and ignorance.
People like you are the bottom of the cesspool.
You said that we believer's are arrogant.
No, am not. Arrogance is a kind of conceited, overbearing attitude where a person thinks he is more important or smarter than he really is. Arrogance is one of the things Christianity opposes because we are not more important or smarter or better than other people. We are sinners saved by grace; and because of that, we are to have an attitude of love and humility.
Romans 12:10, "Be devoted to one another in brotherly love; give preference to one another in honor."
Ephesians 4:1-2, "I, therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, entreat you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, 2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing forbearance to one another in love . . . "
Philippians 2:3, "Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind let each of you regard one another as more important than himself."
Colossians 3:12, "And so, as those who have been chosen of God, holy and beloved, put on a heart of compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience."
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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 6:01 am
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If you can define God in such a way that I can distinguish it from nothing or an unnecessary assumption, I'll accept it's not made up.
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RE: With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God
September 20, 2015 at 6:01 am
(September 20, 2015 at 5:55 am)TheThinkingCatholic Wrote: (September 20, 2015 at 5:44 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I didn't change the subject. You made a bald assertion that the reason atheists are atheists is because we're afraid of God's moral judgment. (no that's not what I said.I said What people reject is the idea of a Creator who demands morality from His creation. Rather than struggle against a guilty conscience, some people reject the idea of God altogether.Am talking about some atheist's not everyone.)
But I find your God, as described by the Bronze Age priests who made him up, to be a morally repugnant concept.
It is beneath my own sense of moral behavior toward my fellow humans.
I find the religion you push degrading to humanity and morally offensive.
It is compounded when you come here, onto our forum, making false claims about atheists.
From here I pick up another question.
Is God made up?
Is Religion degrading society?
Did you miss the part I just stated, right after your blue font?
How can I have a guilty conscience about not following the commands of a being whose entire persona and whose commands I find morally repugnant. They are morally beneath the dignity of reasoning, educated, and decent human beings. Your God is not just made up, he is a monster created by a barbaric people.
You have already demonstrated that you believe Hell is the destination for those who don't believe your Bronze Age fable. This alone is sufficient reason for me to reject your God as a barbaric monster. To posit that it is not enough to just let me die like every other mammal on the planet, but that I must be tortured for all eternity for my disobedience, places your deity into the moral category of a rapist, demanding submissive obedience under threat of the worst type of violence I could even conceive to describe.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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