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Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
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Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/world/...=5043&_r=0

Quote:As Frustrations Build in Libya, So Do Calls for Help

Quote:Many in the region want more than that. Tunisian officials want a United States-led coalition to combat the Islamic State in Libya, where it has established a foothold.


Do your own dirty work you bastards.
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RE: Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
Someone pointed out recently that Daesh have a core membership of around 35,000 in Syria and Iraq, but the surrounding Islamic nations have around 5 million military personnel.

If the locals powers wanted to, they could likely crush the group - except for the insurgent members who would hide and then attack like cowards - in a matter of weeks with a co-ordinated ground campaign. But, of course, the situation and the chaos suits their long term plans.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#3
RE: Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
I don't know. If ISIS is gaining a foothold, it may be best to help in some manner, wouldn't it? The last thing we need is them overrunning another fractured country.
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#4
RE: Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
Help?

Who are we "helping?"  Who are the good guys?  It's the same problem in Syria.  They all suck.
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#5
RE: Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
Even picking a 'right' side doesn't seem to score points with (supposedly) simpatico Muslims in other countries who will still want to fuck us despite our helping their putative allies.

And any authority figure we try to work with is likely corrupt and/or working both (or all 3) sides of the street, and our help will unpredictably (well, for me, PREDICTABLY) piss off some/most/all other factions and we'll have to put up with their retaliation too.

And don't get me started on the fucking Saudis . . .
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#6
RE: Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
You go over to help and they all turn on you. A bad Muslim is better than an infidel trying to help. It's in their psyche. The west is not the better of two evils for we are the cause of everything bad that happens to them!
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#7
RE: Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
Yeah...how many of our guys got shot in the back by fucking Iraqis or Afghans?
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#8
RE: Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
(September 23, 2015 at 2:46 am)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah...how many of our guys got shot in the back by fucking Iraqis or Afghans?

One was too many.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#9
RE: Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
Every time we get involved in other countries we end up with more refugees.
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RE: Oh, Fuck Off. We Have Enough Problems.
Surprisingly, what you all left out of the equation is the simple fact, we're still talking about sovereign states. Failed states in some cases, but still, another power invading or even bombing, is an act of war. So it's not that easy and clear cut as 5 million soldiers versus 35.000 insurgents. That simplistic line of thinking, helped in the creation of ISIS.
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