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Trans-FUCKING-everything
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(October 3, 2015 at 1:38 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I saw the guy who froze his legs off on purpose so he could have a wheel chair do an interview.

I've been around many many people with all manners of problems (thank you 12 steppers and much else) and I still don't understand that.

Well, in a way... perhaps it's not as difficult for me to understand. I sometimes exhibit a more-than-inconsequential desire to hack off a birth defect or two. I also live some days wanting nothing more than to rend and stab myself to death, or rake and tear my face off. I've also found myself filled with the rather-invasive 'whim' of wanting to 'transform', either to something I call my 'Trueform' (human base, but with iridescent wings (that I can turn off), tentacles, and oh... terrifying cosmic powers)... or to what I actually am every single day in my mind (so less of a transformation, and more of a dysphoria at realizing my body and mind do not necessarily match).

So... I have multiple avenues by which I can bridge to some understanding of why someone might want to disable themselves, to 'correct' themselves (some people, for example the woman the thread is about, don't see it as so much a disability... as the world that they have wanted to live in for their entire lives finally theirs to live for the rest of their lives), modify themselves, destroy themselves, or, on a whim to 'transcend' themselves.

I'm sure it seems insane to some people. Which is good... because it is insanity for some people.
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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RE: Trans-FUCKING-everything
(October 3, 2015 at 1:49 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Do have any idea the mental and physical adjustments people like me go through? Learning to dress yourself? Learning to eat without making a total mess. The self-consciousness of going out for a walk. The sensory overload when suddenly you have to wait and listen for doorways? The overwhelming smells? The people who coddle you constantly? The loneliness because most people don't want to date a disabled woman? The -75% employment rate? Fighting tooth and nail to paid a proper wage?  She's a total ass.

I get that, but do you have any idea what it's like to have a mental illness? Do you know what it's like to deal with intrusive thoughts you would do anything to make go away? Sure, on the outside what she has done seems callous, but you have to understand that just like your eyes don't work properly, neither does her brain. By judging her actions in such a manner and taking it personally you are holding her to the standards of someone whose brain does not malfunction, and that's no fairer than if I expected you to read this text.

Mental illness is as much a disability as any physical one, and it's time we recognized it as one.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Trans-FUCKING-everything
(October 3, 2015 at 1:49 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:
(October 3, 2015 at 1:33 am)Faith No More Wrote: Why would you want to shun her if she's mentally ill?

Do have any idea the mental and physical adjustments people like me go through? Learning to dress yourself? Learning to eat without making a total mess. The self-consciousness of going out for a walk. The sensory overload when suddenly you have to wait and listen for doorways? The overwhelming smells? The people who coddle you constantly? The loneliness because most people don't want to date a disabled woman? The -75% employment rate? Fighting tooth and nail to paid a proper wage? She's a total ass.

You're saying that as if she made a rational decision. You're making it sound like she is a fully reasonable adult who simply chose to become disabled on a whim. That's not the case here. She suffers from a psychological disorder. And it's not just a caprice either, those urges are incredibly overwhelming. She has no more control over it than you have over being blind.

While I understand why you're upset, I think it's unfair of you to judge her like you would a fully rational individual.
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Maybe I was a bit harsh in the shun her category but just because she's mentally ill doesn't mean she shouldn't face some ridicule and social consequences. She obviously has some reasoning capacity and I think if she'd been sent to a proper therapist. Maybe actually met some blind people before her " decision", she would have (not right away of course) realized she was being both irrational and disrespectful. And I think she's going to realize how crazy what she did was, and be very regretful.
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Why was the thread called "Trans-FUCKING-everything" ?
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(October 3, 2015 at 7:09 am)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: Why was the thread called "Trans-FUCKING-everything" ?

It was a snipe at "transracial", and "transabled" bull poopy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_int...y_disorder
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RE: Trans-FUCKING-everything
(October 3, 2015 at 7:20 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:
(October 3, 2015 at 7:09 am)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: Why was the thread called "Trans-FUCKING-everything" ?

It was a snipe at "transracial", and "transabled" bull poopy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_int...y_disorder

Thanks. I hadn't heard of of transabled.
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(October 3, 2015 at 2:17 am)Faith No More Wrote: Mental illness is as much a disability as any physical one, and it's time we recognized it as one.

I dunno about that, I am the only sane animal in this world Angel
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RE: Trans-FUCKING-everything
(October 3, 2015 at 6:57 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Maybe I was a bit harsh in the shun her category but just because she's mentally ill doesn't mean she shouldn't face some ridicule and social consequences. She obviously has some reasoning capacity and I think if she'd been sent to a proper therapist. Maybe actually met some blind people before her " decision", she would have (not right away of course) realized she was being both irrational and disrespectful. And I think she's going to realize how crazy what she did was, and be very regretful.
Should you face consequences for accidentally walking into a wall? No. So then why should this woman face all the same issues you do along with a overwhelming urge to maime herself and you wanted to shun for disrespect? You know your urge to eat? Imagine that being an urge to hurt yourself and you may understand this women.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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