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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 12:45 am
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(October 8, 2015 at 12:38 am)Jenny A Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 12:27 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: Your analysis is upside down.
It's an exhortation by Jesus that behaving well won't save you from death. It's in favor of mere belief in Jesus leading to everlasting life; one strait gate/one narrow way.
It would help if you Christians all agreed about what it meant. BTW, when Jesus said it, he hadn't been crucified yet, so the door to everlasting life via salvation was not yet open. There's a similar problem with John 11:25
Quote:Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live;
KJV
Most Christians won't agree due to their pride. That verse is true, those who believed in Jesus before he came were saved, those who believed in Jesus when he was alive, and those who believed in Jesus after he rose are saved.
(October 8, 2015 at 12:45 am)Jenny A Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 12:37 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: what
Haven't you read Winnie the Pooh?
lol no sorry I haven't
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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 12:49 am
(October 8, 2015 at 12:45 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 12:38 am)Jenny A Wrote: It would help if you Christians all agreed about what it meant. BTW, when Jesus said it, he hadn't been crucified yet, so the door to everlasting life via salvation was not yet open. There's a similar problem with John 11:25
KJV
Most Christians won't agree due to their pride. That verse is true, those who believed in Jesus before he came were saved, those who believed in Jesus when he was alive, and those who believed in Jesus after he rose are saved.
What does pride have to do with thinking that the crucifixion was necessary to salvation; and if it wasn't, what was the point of the crucifixion?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 1:01 am
(October 8, 2015 at 12:24 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 7, 2015 at 11:55 pm)Thena323 Wrote: If there are few that find it, that's bad news for everyone isn't? Including most Christians.
It's not that the gate is hard to enter, it's just narrow that's all. I'm referring to the few that find it...as in find their way into the Kingdom of God. According to your Bible, it doesn't seem as if many people will get the gold ring.
Only 144,000 according to some denominations.
That would put almost every Christian that's ever existed out of the running.
Even if you don't accept that number, the verse alone is bad news for believers as well as heathens...sketchy at best.
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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 1:12 am
(October 8, 2015 at 1:01 am)Thena323 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 12:24 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: It's not that the gate is hard to enter, it's just narrow that's all. I'm referring to the few that find it...as in find their way into the Kingdom of God. According to your Bible, it doesn't seem as if many people will get the gold ring.
Only 144,000 according to some denominations.
That would put almost every Christian that's ever existed out of the running.
Even if you don't accept that number, the verse alone is bad news for believers as well as heathens...sketchy at best.
144,000 referred to in Revelation are old testament saints from the 12 tribes of Israel.
The exact number of people saved is not mentioned in the bible.
it is a sad verse.. the way is simple, accessible, and easy to enter, but many will try their own way and it'll fail hard
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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 1:15 am
The whole damn book is sad. Not as much as the people who take it seriously though.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 1:19 am
Poe senses tingling.
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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 1:46 am
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(October 8, 2015 at 1:12 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 1:01 am)Thena323 Wrote: I'm referring to the few that find it...as in find their way into the Kingdom of God. According to your Bible, it doesn't seem as if many people will get the gold ring.
Only 144,000 according to some denominations.
That would put almost every Christian that's ever existed out of the running.
Even if you don't accept that number, the verse alone is bad news for believers as well as heathens...sketchy at best.
144,000 referred to in Revelation are old testament saints from the 12 tribes of Israel.
The exact number of people saved is not mentioned in the bible.
it is a sad verse.. the way is simple, accessible, and easy to enter, but many will try their own way and it'll fail hard No, you're playing games or you've misread the verses:
13 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."
Sorry, but that does NOT mean that the way into the Kingdom of God is simple, accessible and easy to enter.
I'll assume that you don't want to contend with the troublesome issue of there are few who find it.
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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 2:01 am
(October 8, 2015 at 1:46 am)Thena323 Wrote: I'll assume that you don't want to contend with the troublesome issue of there are few that find it.
That's because the vast majority of christians are imbeciles, who couldn't find their own a**es with both hands...
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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 2:06 am
(October 7, 2015 at 11:05 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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RE: Atheists interpret bible verses
October 8, 2015 at 2:08 am
LOL @ KJV
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