What the bible says Hell is like

[emjay]

Apologies if this is off topic but thread about hell and thinking about hell, I just wanted to share a thought. In times of extreme trauma or torture, dissociation can happen in the mind, separating the self from the pain. So putting aside all the other objections, unless Christianity postulates that our minds are substantially different in operation in hell, it would be likely dissociation would occur and everyone would feel like they were floating above themselves, looking down on themselves but not feeling any pain. Just wanted to put that out there because the idea of hell fails in so many ways if an actual human mind, with its qualities and llimitations, is the subject. Likewise, even without dissociation, trance states like self-hypnosis or meditation... for instance would a Buddhist, practiced in non-attachment, even care enough about those sensations, however unpleasant? Maybe not. So with a human mind and its abilities and defences, the idea of hell seems fundamentally flawed to me. So just wanted to dump that thought.

[Whateverist]

Bible teaches that Hell is NOT separation from God

Its a place of...
flaming fire
smothering smoke
dismal darkness
screaming and wailing
everlasting chains
flesh-eating worms
no rest

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Ooooh .. so scary.  How ever did I miss this revelation.

[vorlon13]

Apologies if this is off topic but thread about hell and thinking about hell, I just wanted to share a thought. In times of extreme trauma or torture, dissociation can happen in the mind, separating the self from the pain. So putting aside all the other objections, unless Christianity postulates that our minds are substantially different in operation in hell, it would be likely dissociation would occur and everyone would feel like they were floating above themselves, looking down on themselves but not feeling any pain. Just wanted to put that out there because the idea of hell fails in so many ways if an actual human mind, with its qualities and llimitations, is the subject. Likewise, even without dissociation, trance states like self-hypnosis or meditation... for instance would a Buddhist, practiced in non-attachment, even care enough about those sensations, however unpleasant? Maybe not. So with a human mind and its abilities and defences, the idea of hell seems fundamentally flawed to me. So just wanted to dump that thought.

Well, not to tout my theory too often, but I'm convinced the 'end state' of a human soul that would have been infinitely tormented for an infinite length of time would be knowable to an omniscient deity, and that end state could be imposed instantaneously on a damned soul as soon after death as the Deity decrees.

So, even if one were damned to eternal infinite torture, it need not take more than 1/2 a milli-bleem.

This eliminates, BTW, the theory offered in some of the 'Living Dead' movies that when hell is full, the damned will walk the earth.  In my analysis, hell need only hold a different single damned soul at any subsequent Plank interval at a time, and therefore, the capacity of hell is essentially 'infinite' as far as dealing with the sons of Adam is concerned.


Seriously, this knowable end state disposition of a soul subjected to eternal infinite torment is bloody brilliant.  Hell HAS to work this way. Any specific damned soul would be unaware their torment was administered instantaneously, the end state with the 'fast track' version is IDENTICAL to doing it in linear time, so why would God keep Satan and his minions on the clock for eternity?  Hell, Satan can administer  this all on his own, no minions needed.

Quite a jolt, I suppose, having an infinite duration of infinite torment inflicted all at once, but who gives a rat's ass about the damned anyhow ??  Time for them to take their licks and move out of the way.

[SteelCurtain]

SC doesn't come into this thread for months, and peeks in to make sure everything is hunky dory only to see atheists discussing Planck intervals with regards to the logistics of hell vacancies.

Solid work, atheists!

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I imagine it would be nice and warm.

[emjay]

SC doesn't come into this thread for months, and peeks in to make sure everything is hunky dory only to see atheists discussing Planck intervals with regards to the logistics of hell vacancies.

Solid work, atheists!

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Cheers Bella

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Thanks Ploppy, I needed that seriously

I haven't read this thread at all... I just wanted to dump a thought I was having and this seemed a fair enough place to put it

[emjay]

I'm on mobile... how do I get that rolly floory laughy thingy?

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I'm on mobile... how do I get that rolly floory laughy thingy?

Code:

:roflol:

[emjay]

Apologies if this is off topic but thread about hell and thinking about hell, I just wanted to share a thought. In times of extreme trauma or torture, dissociation can happen in the mind, separating the self from the pain. So putting aside all the other objections, unless Christianity postulates that our minds are substantially different in operation in hell, it would be likely dissociation would occur and everyone would feel like they were floating above themselves, looking down on themselves but not feeling any pain. Just wanted to put that out there because the idea of hell fails in so many ways if an actual human mind, with its qualities and llimitations, is the subject. Likewise, even without dissociation, trance states like self-hypnosis or meditation... for instance would a Buddhist, practiced in non-attachment, even care enough about those sensations, however unpleasant? Maybe not. So with a human mind and its abilities and defences, the idea of hell seems fundamentally flawed to me. So just wanted to dump that thought.

Well, not to tout my theory too often, but I'm convinced the 'end state' of a human soul that would have been infinitely tormented for an infinite length of time would be knowable to an omniscient deity, and that end state could be imposed instantaneously on a damned soul as soon after death as the Deity decrees.

So, even if one were damned to eternal infinite torture, it need not take more than 1/2 a milli-bleem.

This eliminates, BTW, the theory offered in some of the 'Living Dead' movies that when hell is full, the damned will walk the earth.  In my analysis, hell need only hold a different single damned soul at any subsequent Plank interval at a time, and therefore, the capacity of hell is essentially 'infinite' as far as dealing with the sons of Adam is concerned.


Seriously, this knowable end state disposition of a soul subjected to eternal infinite torment is bloody brilliant.  Hell HAS to work this way. Any specific damned soul would be unaware their torment was administered instantaneously, the end state with the 'fast track' version is IDENTICAL to doing it in linear time, so why would God keep Satan and his minions on the clock for eternity?  Hell, Satan can administer  this all on his own, no minions needed.

Quite a jolt, I suppose, having an infinite duration of infinite torment inflicted all at once, but who gives a rat's ass about the damned anyhow ??  Time for them to take their licks and move out of the way.

Okaaaay... do you mind if I read this in the morning? too late to brain.

[vorlon13]

SC doesn't come into this thread for months, and peeks in to make sure everything is hunky dory only to see atheists discussing Planck intervals with regards to the logistics of hell vacancies.

Solid work, atheists!

You missed the tip of the hat to Mork and Mindy . . .