Pat Doesn't Think Much of the EU

[abaris]

BTW, when it comes to law not everything is explicit on paper, sometimes we reach the conclusion by rational thought and logic - If there's a law prohibiting hate speech against minorities but no law banning bible burnings, it is obvious that burning a Quran would constitute a crime but not a bible.

So, an opinion.

[Dystopia]

BTW, when it comes to law not everything is explicit on paper, sometimes we reach the conclusion by rational thought and logic - If there's a law prohibiting hate speech against minorities but no law banning bible burnings, it is obvious that burning a Quran would constitute a crime but not a bible.

So, an opinion.  

No, a fact - Not every law needs to be explicit, sometimes the prohibition (or permission) is merely implicit. For example, if there's a law saying that the government shouldn't pass laws limiting your economic freedom, then there's an implicit meaning that you are free to start up your own company. Is this a hard to understand concept? In the case of hate speech laws, frequently they're directed solely at minorities and the line between cultural, religious and racial hatred is blurry or the concepts may even be considered equivalent, hence why some people think it's racist to criticize Islam or Judaism.

[abaris]

No, a fact - Not every law needs to be explicit, sometimes the prohibition (or permission) is merely implicit.

Based on what? Quote it or own up to it being an opinion or your interpretation of what you think the implications are. Or what your particular flavor of fearmonger promotes it to be.

I kept quiet about your EU conspiracy against dissenting voices, but this is a downhill race into mralstoner territory.

[Dystopia]

No, a fact - Not every law needs to be explicit, sometimes the prohibition (or permission) is merely implicit.

Based on what? Quote it or own up to it being an opinion or your interpretation of what you think the implications are. Or what your particular flavor of fearmonger promotes it to be.

I kept quiet about your EU conspiracy against dissenting voices, but this is a downhill race into mralstoner territory.

I'm sorry, but what do you, specifically, want to know? Do you want me to show you cases of people burning a Quran and being arrested for it?

[Minimalist]

In case you haven't noticed there have been some high profile terror attacks.  That sort of thing does get people's attention.

And it will lead to a backlash.

One word, Europol statistics. 4 percent of terrorist attacks in Europe having religious motivations. That's not even singling out muslims - only religion(s).

If hanging out on this board has taught you anything, Ab, it should be that facts are irrelevant to people who merely want vindication for their beliefs.

For example, this:

https://publicintelligence.net/fbi-milit...g-muslims/

got virtually no play at all in the media.

But this:

http://www.religionnews.com/2015/08/12/m...join-isis/

was all over the airwaves.

Manipulative?  Sure.  The media exists to manipulate us.

[abaris]

I'm sorry, but what do you, specifically, want to know? Do you want me to show you cases of people burning a Quran and being arrested for it?

The particular legislation would be sufficient. As it is, I have it with unsupported claims. I get enough of them by listening to our very own fear mongers.

[abaris]

If hanging out on this board has taught you anything, Ab, it should be that facts are irrelevant to people who merely want vindication for their beliefs.

Knowing and accepting are two different things. I will never accept unsupported bullshit to make bigotry look better without at least saying something.

[Minimalist]

It's good to have a hobby.

[abaris]

It's good to have a hobby.

My ancestors had the same hobby some 80 years ago. Pity they were a minority.