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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 1:35 am
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(October 21, 2015 at 1:14 am)robvalue Wrote: Alarmingly few Christians seem to be aware that the bible contains known forgeries. Those that are seem unconcerned.
As far as I'm aware, every reference made by Paul to "Jesus the human" is a forgery. He was not referring to a person at all, those words have been put in his mouth. So not only are there three Jesuses (synoptic, John and Paul) only two of them are even human. Paul referred almost certainly to a celestial being.
Not that the "original" accounts prove anything anyway. People can make up and write down any shit they want. Or they can be deluded.
all these religions just need to go in the trash ... keep the books as a reminder to us all what religions did to humanity put them in a huge museum among memorabilia of wars and famine and human suffering caused by them all . i think the internet and people having access to the truth about religions is eventually going to lead to their extinction
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Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today  Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 1:48 am
In my more serious moments, thinking about the concept we call God, as I try to imagine what this being must be like, I have never been able to shake the distinct impression that, whatever it is, it must be really, really, really angry at the bipedal apes that live on the third rock out from a middling yellow dwarf star on the back edge of one spiral arm of one galaxy (one of over 100,000,000,000 stars in this galaxy alone) among the 225,000,000,000 galaxies in the known (to us) universe, who are so arrogant as to presume that we know anything about this being, especially the idea that this being really, really is interested in what we do with our genitals.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 1:50 am
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(October 21, 2015 at 1:35 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Oh, right, I remember now.
Quote:Individuals with schizophrenia may hear voices that are not there. [...] There is, to date, no physical or laboratory test that can absolutely diagnose schizophrenia. The doctor, a psychiatrist, will make a diagnosis based on the patient's clinical symptoms. However, physical testing can rule out some other disorders and conditions which sometimes have similar symptoms, such as seizure disorders, thyroid dysfunction, brain tumor, drug use, and metabolic disorders. [...] Delusions - The patient has false beliefs of persecution, guilt of grandeur. He/she may feel things are being controlled from outside. It is not uncommon for people with schizophrenia to describe plots against them. They may think they have extraordinary powers and gifts. Some patients with schizophrenia may hide in order to protect themselves from an imagined persecution.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/36942.php
Weird, I just googled "religious" and I got the exact same paragraph.
(Just kidding  But seriously, I can't tell the difference based on how religious people talk.)
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 1:51 am
I might confess some interest in what you're doing with . . .
yours.
Guess that makes me more Godlike than I suspected.
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 1:52 am
And ninja'd by RV.
I'd be annoyed, but I'll confess a further interest . . .
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 1:54 am
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 1:55 am
[school girl giggle]
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 2:04 am
All jokes aside (but thanks for the compliment, Vorlon), I can't grasp how it's not obvious to people that any deity that has the same prurient interests in what/where/how humans use their genitalia that humans do is a projection of our psychology, not the Creator of the Universe.
By comparison, the self-centered hubris which led us to believe that the earth was the center of the universe and that even the sun went around us is miniscule!
When people say things against homosexuals (or fornicators, or adulterers, etc) based on the "God is Watching You!" principle, it just makes me want to go slack-jawed. How can they not see this? You people seriously think that, of the two possible options, this deity of yours is all hot and bothered over who's fucking whom, rather than the obvious psychological projection of humans?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 2:07 am
And holding up the mirror to them and their 'peccadilloes' has no discernible affect.
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RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 21, 2015 at 2:07 am
Right. Psychology explains what is going on pretty much perfectly. People are too caught up in the magic to even notice this. Especially since everyone's proclamations on God's behalf do not line up, even slightly. I wonder why?
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