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RE: A question for theists Part II.
October 27, 2015 at 7:11 pm
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great point according to the OT bible God is responsible for death and destruction and cruel sadistic unjust actions throughout human history , all the devil did was give one of Gods creations an apple that was created by God and allowed satan to do it , so satan did what he was allowed to do with the apple that was created not to be eaten in a garden that God placed all of them in .... making the whole thing a setup ! so why would christians/jews/muslims think that the devil is so much worse that is a very good question for people who believe in the bible stories id love to know how they can justify saying the devil is a terrible being , God according to the bible created lucifer and then turned him into the devil and allowed the devil to tempt man as a snake with an apple that he made and put there , and made man and woman curious about the forbidden fruit . in fact if this is true what exactly did satan do wrong exactly he is more of a victim himself to this psycho bible God that created him with the temperment to rebel and become proud and greedy and then put him in a position of power which is just setting that creation up to fall just like God did to us later so now its all lucifers fault ?
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today 
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
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RE: A question for theists Part II.
October 27, 2015 at 7:55 pm
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I'm gettin' real sick of you little shits thinking you can hold me to your moral standards! You can't judge me! You can't even touch this! I'm the ultimate authority, motherfucker! I RULE ALL OF SPACETIME!
Whatever I do is absolute good: bone cancer, mudslides, if it's my will, then it's good. If I say something is good or evil, it's a universal truth, indisputable.
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RE: A question for theists Part II.
October 27, 2015 at 8:01 pm
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The devil is evil because he opposes someone who proclaims themself to be good. Its just that neither of those words have any meaning when used this way. Without another way to assess who is actually "good", we have no idea who is worthy of our support and are reduced to toadying around the most powerful force or refusing to back anyone.
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RE: A question for theists Part II.
October 27, 2015 at 8:06 pm
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Finally, someone gets it!
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RE: A question for theists Part II.
October 27, 2015 at 8:43 pm
I recently understood this from a Christian Perspective.
It took a long time for me to comprehend how a person calling themselves a Christian would say that it's not Evil for a Pharmaceutical company to overcharge for a drug that people's lives depend on. The idea was mind boggling to me. But then it hit me. They believe that the Pharmaceutical company may do what they want with their property because it's their property, much like they believe that God may do with his property what he wants to because it's his property. God can flood the world if he likes, because it's his property, we (according to them) belong to him. So there is nothing he can do to us that is 'immoral'. Satan on the other hand wants God's property for himself. Therefore he is evil (in their system of morality).
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RE: A question for theists Part II.
October 28, 2015 at 3:59 pm
rebel against oppressive dictatorship by throwing your bibles in the trash
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
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RE: A question for theists Part II.
October 29, 2015 at 3:10 am
It's not the books which is the problem, it's worshipping a fictitious god who will grant you everlasting life which causes people to do evil things.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
