The Tower of Babel

[Drich]

Alot of people had to die before that pic was taken, before a single communal/hive/borg mind took control of them. That maybe your idea of Nirvana, but not me not in this life.

Yeah, you're an ignorant idiot. The same kind of ignorant idiot as the militant atheist guy trying to paint the Nazis as a christian movement. But why should I be surprised by that? You're just two different sides of the same coin, after all. Uninformed and always on the lookout for cheap talking points. Keep to your bible. As opposed to factual books, you at least seem to have read it.

Window dressing sport.. it's just window dressing.

If the word/term Nazi shuts you brain down and will not allow to see the woods because of all the trees in the way, then replace Nazi with the Kim regime, or Stallin's Russia or Even the Borg of Star trek. Any culture that has been beaten and broken/forced to think as one. Because inorder to have perfect peace one must take away all who oppose this specific idea of peace.

Or are you so foolish to believe that 'language' is the only thing that stands between humanity and some hippie idea of perfect world peace..

The only way peace will ever be known is if every man woman and child who would ever oppose your version of peace is dead. One language makes that genocide easier.

[Redbeard The Pink]

So, Drich, what you're saying is that the tower of Babel was real.

Got any of that stuff we call evidence to go along with your cool story?

Like what?

You do know just because God mixed their languages does not mean people went stupid. That tower represented a huge investment in material an money. Material that all could be reused/repurposed. Meaning those bricks and stones were reused to build cities, homes and other public works in that region.

Or did you think they would just leave the tower stand and fall apart on it's own so we could point to it and confirm this story?

This is just a new assertion you don't have evidence for. Dismantling a huge stone structure and re-using all the bricks, by the way, WOULD still leave evidence that that's what happened; it wouldn't just conveniently erase all the evidence of the assertion you made before.


Example: we now know that Stonehenge was definitely a religious structure because we found the alter just a few miles away from it. Apparently somebody had dragged it off and used it to build a bridge at some point.

[Drich]

Because we know ONLY good comes out of a people with 'one mind.' Resistance was futile everyone was assimilated! their technological and biological distinctivness was repurposed and added to their own (or it was put in camps to be later burned in massive ovens.)

But the tower was built not long after the flood, where all the evil people were killed, so how could it have been that bad for them to unify? Maybe then, Yahweh wouldn't need to free the isrealites and send them to kill neighboring tribes.

Though this does bring up the issue that not only did the flood not do any good, but separating people didn't do any good either. Yahweh has such a great track record managing his flock, doesn't he?

lol... How many people do you think were on that ark?

the story of babble is in close proxcimity to the ark story in the book of genesis, but in reality the time between those two events was massive, maybe even a few dozen generations... That what it would take to populate a city from Noah's two sons, and their wives.

[Drich]

Like what?

You do know just because God mixed their languages does not mean people went stupid. That tower represented a huge investment in material an money. Material that all could be reused/repurposed. Meaning those bricks and stones were reused to build cities, homes and other public works in that region.

Or did you think they would just leave the tower stand and fall apart on it's own so we could point to it and confirm this story?

This is just a new assertion you don't have evidence for. Dismantling a huge stone structure and re-using all the bricks, by the way, WOULD still leave evidence that that's what happened; it wouldn't just conveniently erase all the evidence of the assertion you made before.


Example: we now know that Stonehenge was definitely a religious structure because we found the alter just a few miles away from it. Apparently somebody had dragged it off and used it to build a bridge at some point.

The tower was constructed of baked mud brick and tar... Not 400 ton granite blocks.
A baked brick means something that is small enough to fit into and not crack when baked... So about the size of the bricks we use now.

bricks are far easier to repurpose than 400 ton granite blocks.

 After all according to you even the great stone henge was repurposed all except the stuff too heavy to move/move very far. with this in mind what in your estimation should be left at the tower site that was made up of hand size bricks??

[Redbeard The Pink]

The tower was constructed of baked mud brick and tar... Not 400 ton granite blocks.
A baked brick means something that is small enough to fit into and not crack when baked... So about the size of the bricks we use now.

bricks are far easier to repurpose than 400 ton granite blocks.

 After all according to you even the great stone henge was repurposed all except the stuff too heavy to move/move very far. with this in mind what in your estimation should be left at the tower site that was made up of hand size bricks??

Not much, maybe. Foundations. Evidence of work crews living/being nearby. Other structures built out of the repurposed bricks. Maybe not much, but something. The same kind of evidence we find near the Pyramids, probably. Certainly more than you've offered here. "It could have happened this way," without evidence, is nothing more than a guess, regardless of how reasonable your ad hoc assumptions might be.

[Minimalist]

Ben Carson has now officially become a fucking shithead.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-cars...ohs-tombs/

Ben Carson: I’m not saying it’s aliens — but scientists are totally wrong about the pyramids

Egypt’s pyramids were built by the biblical Joseph to store grain and were not, as archaeologists believe, tombs for pharaohs, Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson has said.

[Chad32]

But the tower was built not long after the flood, where all the evil people were killed, so how could it have been that bad for them to unify? Maybe then, Yahweh wouldn't need to free the isrealites and send them to kill neighboring tribes.

Though this does bring up the issue that not only did the flood not do any good, but separating people didn't do any good either. Yahweh has such a great track record managing his flock, doesn't he?

lol... How many people do you think were on that ark?

the story of babble is in close proxcimity to the ark story in the book of genesis, but in reality the time between those two events was massive, maybe even a few dozen generations... That what it would take to populate a city from Noah's two sons, and their wives.

Eight people went on the ark, and I've heard the babel story was 150 years later. People back then had no sense of scale. In any case, my point was that the flood didn't seem to work to well at eradicating evil, if Yahweh thought them building the tower was such a bad idea, and confusing their language didn't seem to do any good either in the long run. You'd think an all knowing being would be able to fix the problem the first time.

[abaris]

If the word/term Nazi shuts you brain down and will not allow to see the woods because of all the trees in the way, then replace Nazi with the Kim regime, or Stallin's Russia or Even the Borg of Star trek. Any culture that has been beaten and broken/forced to think as one. Because inorder to have perfect peace one must take away all who oppose this specific idea of peace.

Same kind of idiocy. Point stands, get an informed opinion on history, not some convenient internet bullshittery. But that will never happen, will it?

[Redbeard The Pink]

lol... How many people do you think were on that ark?

the story of babble is in close proxcimity to the ark story in the book of genesis, but in reality the time between those two events was massive, maybe even a few dozen generations... That what it would take to populate a city from Noah's two sons, and their wives.

Eight people went on the ark, and I've heard the babel story was 150 years later. People back then had no sense of scale. In any case, my point was that the flood didn't seem to work to well at eradicating evil, if Yahweh thought them building the tower was such a bad idea, and confusing their language didn't seem to do any good either in the long run. You'd think an all knowing being would be able to fix the problem the first time.

Right? I mean, the most recent episode involved a ritual human sacrifice by the most brutal method publicly available at the time, and apparently that didn't even take. Now he supposedly has to come back again, and that whole ordeal will take thousands of years and involve sealing most of humanity into Hell with the demons or some shit like that, while a meager fraction of the human race gets to spend the rest of eternity groveling before Gaud...and you know what? That probably won't solve the problem of evil, either.


Maybe it's because Gaud is evil, and therefore everything he creates is evil and everything he does is evil.

[Minimalist]

Any culture that has been beaten and broken/forced to think as one.

Oh, you mean like xtian fuckheads in the middle ages?  Never a more battered, broken, and terrorized group for such a length of time.