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"The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 6:37 am
For fuck's sake, that would be horrible.
Kenny said to know when to fold 'em. I'm with you on that, Kenny.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 7:15 am
(December 14, 2015 at 6:37 am)Thena323 Wrote: For fuck's sake, that would be horrible.
Kenny said to know when to fold 'em. I'm with you on that, Kenny.

So when is the cutoff age for not being horrible? And why?
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 7:55 am
(December 14, 2015 at 6:16 am)Amine Wrote: "Old people are people too, so the fact that aging only kills old people is not a reason not to be working on defeating it."

That quote I just heard from Aubrey de Grey is a game changer, I think. It reveals an unexamined bigotry we have. We think it is okay that they die, because they are old. That's actually incredibly bigoted.

You can't really say it's bigoted since everyone is going to have to get old at some point. That's why it concerns all of us though.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 8:10 am (This post was last modified: December 14, 2015 at 8:16 am by Athene.)
(December 14, 2015 at 7:15 am)Amine Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 6:37 am)Thena323 Wrote: For fuck's sake, that would be horrible.
Kenny said to know when to fold 'em. I'm with you on that, Kenny.

So when is the cutoff age for not being horrible? And why?

That's just my personal take. 
Anyone who wants to live that long should definitely go for it.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 8:12 am
(December 14, 2015 at 8:10 am)Thena323 Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 7:15 am)Amine Wrote: So when is the cutoff age for not being horrible? And why?

That's just my personal take. 
Anyone who want to live that long should definitely go for it.

Why wouldn't you want to live that long?
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"The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 8:16 am (This post was last modified: December 14, 2015 at 8:17 am by KUSA.)
If there was breakthrough in medical science that stopped the aging process, it wouldn't solve the limited brain capacity that we have.

How would you remember everything after a century or a millennia? You would be a completely different person. You wouldn't be able to remember who you originally were after a while.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 8:27 am
(December 14, 2015 at 8:12 am)excitedpenguin Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 8:10 am)Thena323 Wrote: That's just my personal take. 
Anyone who want to live that long should definitely go for it.

Why wouldn't you want to live that long?

I'm not interested in holding on to life at any cost.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 9:11 am
(December 14, 2015 at 8:16 am)KUSA Wrote: If there was breakthrough in medical science that stopped the aging process, it wouldn't solve the limited brain capacity that we have.

How would you remember everything after a century or a millennia? You would be a completely different person. You wouldn't be able to remember who you originally were after a while.

You can train your memory. And you'll still remember everything, just not in as much detail. But think about how much you could learn. You could become an expert in a lot of areas at once.

Are we seriously debating right now whether it's a good thing or not not to die?
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 9:12 am (This post was last modified: December 14, 2015 at 9:14 am by Excited Penguin.)
(December 14, 2015 at 8:27 am)Thena323 Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 8:12 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: Why wouldn't you want to live that long?

I'm not interested in holding on to life at any cost.

What do you mean "any cost"? We're talking about living in what would basically be a healthy, fully-functioning body... forever. What's not to want? If you ever get bored, by all means, you can still kill yourself.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 10:10 am
(December 14, 2015 at 4:43 am)Amine Wrote: I wrote an essay about this here: https://deanamine.wordpress.com/2015/10/...evity-day/

Nice essay, I liked it. One thing, though. Don't be so dismissive of A.I. I recommend you read the book Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom.
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