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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 22, 2015 at 9:10 pm
orangebox21,
Jesus as a man is the son of God. In spirit it is the Holy Spirit. He is the propitiation to the Father and the payment for nearly all sin from any sinner. He and his teaching and example are the way for us to follow the direction of God. His self sacrifice was both payment for sin and symbolic for the sacrifice of sin end freedom from the fleshly bingings there of.
Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
12: And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13: But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
15: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand 
16: Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. shall the end come.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 22, 2015 at 9:15 pm
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(December 22, 2015 at 9:10 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: orangebox21,
Jesus as a man is the son of God. In spirit it is the Holy Spirit. He is the propitiation to the Father and the payment for nearly all sin from any sinner. He and his teaching and example are the way for us to follow the direction of God. His self sacrifice was both payment for sin and symbolic for the sacrifice of sin end freedom from the fleshly bingings there of.
Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
12: And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13: But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
15: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16: Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. shall the end come.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 22, 2015 at 9:42 pm
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Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
12: And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13: But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
43: But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44: Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
45: Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46: Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47: Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
48: But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49: And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50: The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
51: And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mathew 24 and 25 are definitely directed towards the elect and faithful, and not the ignorant.
As far as eternity is concerned;
Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
35: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Revelation 2 (KJV) - ራእይ
10: Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
Revelation 10 (KJV) - ራእይ
6: And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 22, 2015 at 11:36 pm
(December 22, 2015 at 9:10 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: orangebox21,
Jesus as a man is the son of God.
Are you denying that Jesus is God?
(December 22, 2015 at 9:10 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: In spirit it is the Holy Spirit.
What is "it" that is the Holy Spirit?
(December 22, 2015 at 9:10 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: He is the propitiation to the Father and the payment for nearly all sin from any sinner.
So you're teaching that Jesus is an imperfect sacrifice?
(December 22, 2015 at 9:42 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
12: And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13: But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
43: But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44: Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
45: Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46: Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47: Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
48: But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49: And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50: The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
51: And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mathew 24 and 25 are definitely directed towards the elect and faithful, and not the ignorant. It's true that these passages are directed towards the elect and faithful. Yet if we follow your logic through, then God will punish the faithful and elect. Furthermore, can you infer that punishment is only for the people about whom Jesus was speaking in these passages? For it is written that "the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men" (Romans 1:18) and "when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power" (2 Thessalonians 1:7-9).
Of whom is Jesus Lord (Acts 10:36)? God says that no one is ignorant (Romans 1).
Anyone, including the faithless in Matthew 24 and 25, who does not obey the gospel of Jesus Christ will suffer everlasting destruction.
(December 22, 2015 at 9:42 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: As far as eternity is concerned;
Matthew 24 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
35: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Revelation 2 (KJV) - ራእይ
10: Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
Revelation 10 (KJV) - ራእይ
6: And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: You wrote "Hell, nor Heaven, nor Earth are eternal. It is written numerous times in many scriptures." I see heaven and earth in your above scriptures but not Hell passing away.
To clarify, the current heavens and earth will pass away, but a new heaven and a new earth will be created that will be eternal (Revelation 21:1).
I also still need scriptures to verify when you wrote: "Hell is to be for ten thousand years from the time before the flood."
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 23, 2015 at 12:30 am
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Ah, there's just nothing sweeter than the sight of two evangelical assholes going at each other in another battle of lies! 
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 23, 2015 at 2:25 am
I love the term "Christ off", that's absolutely hilarious 
Did god's plan include all this confusion about his message? Or did we overpower his attempts to communicate properly?
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 23, 2015 at 3:03 am
orangebox21,
I specifically stated that Jesus which is not a man and hadn't been a man for over two thousand years is equal to the holy spirit.
I will ask you to please ask question without assuming things or putting words in my mouth.
Why would you assume that I preach that Jesus was imperfect. On the contrary h was the only pure and without blimesh. Thought I wrote something along those lines but I have no problem with clarification.
Follow my logic? You mean follow scripture? The subject matter was the extent of punishment. The only ones who will not be allowed forgiveness are those that blaspheme the holy spirit. Ignorant nor innocent can do that. The elect or knowledgeable yet greedy can. All being judged isn't the same as all being punished. Not to mention salvation and direction under God is attainable to all. I can copy and paste more scripture, but to honest I have only read it for less than a year. It does state that all the existence will be wiped away and the word of God and his will is all that will remain. I can quote other scriptures from non cannon books and other faiths but for sme reason I don't think so hat will justify my stance to you personally. It's in the book of Enoch and the Quran and the Bible. You seem to be looking for a reason to divide yourself from what I say as opposed to uniting in Faith under God which we are told to do in scripture, so there you go. If you can overlook th e fact that I reference the Quran then maybe I'm wrong about you. Please do refrain from assumption as it is th errand of the proud and hawty which we as followers of Christ aren't to be.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 23, 2015 at 3:05 am
(December 23, 2015 at 2:25 am)robvalue Wrote: I love the term "Christ off", that's absolutely hilarious
Did god's plan include all this confusion about his message? Or did we overpower his attempts to communicate properly? It was part of his plan. Heard of the tower of babble? We are to all come together under God and the direction there of. Tis pertains to all faithful and not only Christians in any way.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 23, 2015 at 4:05 am
(December 23, 2015 at 3:03 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: orangebox21,
I specifically stated that Jesus which is not a man and hadn't been a man for over two thousand years is equal to the holy spirit.
I will ask you to please ask question without assuming things or putting words in my mouth.
Why would you assume that I preach that Jesus was imperfect. On the contrary h was the only pure and without blimesh. Thought I wrote something along those lines but I have no problem with clarification.
Follow my logic? You mean follow scripture? The subject matter was the extent of punishment. The only ones who will not be allowed forgiveness are those that blaspheme the holy spirit. Ignorant nor innocent can do that. The elect or knowledgeable yet greedy can. All being judged isn't the same as all being punished. Not to mention salvation and direction under God is attainable to all. I can copy and paste more scripture, but to honest I have only read it for less than a year. It does state that all the existence will be wiped away and the word of God and his will is all that will remain. I can quote other scriptures from non cannon books and other faiths but for sme reason I don't think so hat will justify my stance to you personally. It's in the book of Enoch and the Quran and the Bible. You seem to be looking for a reason to divide yourself from what I say as opposed to uniting in Faith under God which we are told to do in scripture, so there you go. If you can overlook th e fact that I reference the Quran then maybe I'm wrong about you. Please do refrain from assumption as it is th errand of the proud and hawty which we as followers of Christ aren't to be.
Peace
Faith in selfless Unity for Good. How can Jesus be the holy spirit when he told his posse that he would send the holy spirit to them?
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 23, 2015 at 4:19 am
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On the non-prophets they said maybe it's like "God" is a giant robot, and one of his arms is Jesus, one is the Holy Spirit and the rest of him is Yahweh.
I guess he has a detachable penis called Satan, too.
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