Episode VII (spoilers)

[Drich]

I'm not going to start with spoilers but I think their needs to be a support group for fans.. Has anyone else seen the movie yet?

[Chad32]

I haven't. Is it that bad? What's the basic plot?

[Drich]

It is friggen awesome!

Basically it's 30 years later, and the republic has taken over as the galaxy's core government. This time the separatist movement is the first order, they are the reminants of the empire. Han and Leigh have a kid who is a real a hole. He trains with Luke for a while but turns to the dark side. He and a handful of others run the first order, under the 'supreme leader.' All of which is very nazi like. (More so than the original). In the movie poster you see a Death Star type of orb, well it turns out it is a planet, that does not have the same thermal exhaust port the original Death Star had, so this thing does not go like the first two did. A very high price was paid to "save the day" this time around...

This movie feels right all the way through. I thought Lucas' last 3 were 'forced' the actors the plot line all of it. This movie have an awesome ebb and flow to it plus again it felt like a proper Star Wars film.


I guess that is what happens when a real fans get to make the ultimate fan movie. Their is love in what these people are doing, and it pours out on screen.

If you read the books of the 80s and 90s you should have a basic direction the film is headed, but Abrams is definatly putting his own spin on things.

[Drich]

One of the things I would have done differently, was if I were Abrams I would have put Han in another greedo situation and had him shoot first just to set the friggen record straight!

[Athene]

Going to see it tomorrow or Saturday. Some big mouth told me.....

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Solo gets murdered by his kid

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True, yes?

[Drich]

Going to see it tomorrow or Saturday. Some big mouth told me.....

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Solo gets murdered by his kid

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True, yes?

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Yes... That is why I said this needs to be a support group. "Ben Solo." AKA kylo ren is played by a guy who if even if he did not just kill Han, and you'd saw him walk down the street you'd want to punch him in the face.

It was very well done, and it adds to the hate you have for this character and it follows the dark path one has to follow to become a sith lord (which btw this d-bag is not when the movie starts) but it still hurt.

They said the only way harrison ford would do another movie is if they killed him off. He did not wanting Han to be old and decrepped. I shouted No! like luke did when Obi wan was struck down by vader in the first movie.

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[Drich]

One of the thing I absolutely love about Abram's movies is his ability to update the original look and tech from an original series or movie like star trek/wars and make what was hokey look more modern and believable. It was all the little things he up dated like the falcon's gunnery scope display screen, or the way the tie fighter manipulated their gunnery controls, it was all the same and when you looked at what the gunner saw you saw a believable display that paid much respect to what lucas originally did.

Spoiler

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One of the other things I really liked was the light saber effect kylo Ren had with his saber. for those who don't know Ren has taken his look from the knights of ren which is a much much older sith group. their technology was not as advanced so the light saber blade is far more destructive and crude. In the movie you can see this with the effect of how light is bent/reacts around the energy blade.

In the books Han's son was the male twin (Jacen) and the female (luke supposed daughter in the movie) was the female twin (Jaina) of solo and Leigha. (one repersented the light side and the other dark) The Idea for ren came out of the 'diluted' blood line (Anikin/Vader being a pure force bred child, then Luke leigha being 1/2, and Ben solo and his sister being 1/4. In the book Jacen solo becomes a sith lord later in life while 'ben' turns to the dark side much earilier in training, before he knows who who/what he really is. So he collects sith lord artifacts to make himself out to be far more powerful than what he really is.

None of this is mentioned outright in the movie but the arch of the character supports this conclusion, which is yet another example of the sheer love and respect for this story JJ put into this movie.

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[TheRealJoeFish]

I really liked it myself. I pretty much agree with everything you said!

[Athene]

One of the thing I absolutely love about Abram's movies is his ability to update the original look and tech from an original series or movie like star trek/wars and make what was hokey look more modern and believable. 

Speaking of which, I believe Abrams directed the first 2 installments of the Star Trek reboot. He didn't direct Star Trek: Beyond, but did produce it. Trailer's getting mixed reactions, but I will be there on opening day...Hell or high water.

[Drich]

I really liked it myself. I pretty much agree with everything you said!

Any parts that stand out as great moments or really bother you?