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Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
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RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
(December 27, 2015 at 6:55 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(December 26, 2015 at 4:13 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Science isn't the answer to every question.  When you get to a place that it is, you're in a rut.

Magic will get you out of that rut.

Nah.

It's true though. The philosophy of science will get you something science won't, for instance.

Karl Popper's philosophy of science is what led to the idea of falsifiability which is highly helpful to the applied scientific method.

Also logic and mathematics will get you answers that science won't.
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RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
(December 27, 2015 at 7:16 pm)Evie Wrote:
(December 27, 2015 at 6:55 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Magic will get you out of that rut.

Nah.

It's true though. The philosophy of science will get you something science won't, for instance.

Karl Popper's philosophy of science is what led to the idea of falsifiability which is highly helpful to the applied scientific method.

Also logic and mathematics will get you answers that science won't.

I'm a fan of philosophy and the sciences.
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RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
(December 26, 2015 at 1:24 am)dyresand Wrote: For starters i lack the reasoning to believe in a god and anything in the bible. I can strongly reason with something like science 
which is based on fact. Religion if it's wrong there are processes it goes through to change to get the right answer. What is this
process you may ask it's called the scientific method. The method in which we test gather data and get our evidence but
the great part of that we should always get the same answer each time until it is a scientific theory. You have something like
the bible it is not based in any sort of reality what so ever and the god of the bible clearly acts like he is human, because well
he was written up by humans. Before i got off on a tangent i will say this think of all the times during our nations tragedies
or even better yet any point in time. I say this because the incident in kitrina a few years back was god there no, sandy hook
was god there to protect the children no, was god there when a guy shot up a movie theater no, was god there when 9/11 happened
no. It should be more clear if i had to point it out like that your god you believe in sure as hell doesn't care about us or you know
doesn't exist. That being said i highly doubt a god exists even on some degree even if it doesn't give a fuck about us should you know 
now and then be like hey are you guys okay.

ROFLOL

What if...

Your idea of God was wrong???

What if Death was not the ultimate bad thing/end that could happen to us? Then would God be responsible to save us from it?

To put it another way Imagine a world where THE WORST thing that could happen to some one was they got a cut requiring no more than 15 stitches and a singular broken bone. Now put in place man's ever sliding sense of morality/idea of right and wrong onto this paradigm then we would treat getting a 15 stitch cut and a singular broken bone as bad as death.. Imagine In that reality the D-bags who question the existence of God because of all the broken bones and all of the cuts requiring no more than 15 stitches... To the D-bags of that realm who question God because they experience the worst of the worst a broken bone AND a cut requiring no more than 15 stitches feel like 'God' should have protected them like those who have never been cut or experienced the pain of a broken bone.

I picked a broken bone and a singular cut requiring no more than 15 stitches because for me when I was like 8 that was the worst thing that had ever happened to me. when I was a child I could understand greater things but i could not fathom their complete meaning because they did not happen to me.

The same is true with you and death. You are like an 8 year old who can not fathom anything worse than death. so when you see people's lives getting cut what to you seems short to you, SEEMS to be the ultimate wrong. When infact your mind set is of an 8 year old who thinks cuts and broken bones are the end of the world.

Let just say for the moment the bible is right. And Death is not our end, but our birth into eternity. Now If the end of this life means the start of an eternal one.. One that God looks forward living with you and if all is well you look forward living with Him, then Why or why is it then a bad thing to end this life a few moments short of everyone else? again look from an eternal perspective.

It is only when this life is all you got does one tend to feel slighted when it is cut years short.

Again, so maybe Your idea of God and His responsibility to is here in this life is all wrong, and what the bible has to say is right! That being the case your whole argument is completely meaningless. (If God owes us no order of protection from an early death then all of your examples of early death to prove God does not exist are pointless.)
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RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
So your answer is that we're going to live forever so why worry, be happy?
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#15
RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
I don't choose atheism, but I do choose not to have anything to do with religion and to use the scientific method to learn things.
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#16
RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
(December 28, 2015 at 3:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: So your answer is that we're going to live forever so why worry, be happy?
Not all of 'us..'
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#17
RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
Ah, the "What if you're wrong?/god wants to live a life with you as your super best friend" 1-2 combo.

Honest question: has that ever worked on someone who wasn't already an idiot?
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RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
(December 28, 2015 at 3:38 pm)robvalue Wrote: I don't choose atheism, but I do choose not to have anything to do with religion and to use the scientific method to learn things.

Sigworthy! Permission for me to replace my Alan Watts quote with this, in my sig?
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#19
RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
Wow really? Thank you Blush

I would be honoured! Go for it Smile
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#20
RE: Why i choose science reason and atheism over religion
Quote:What if...

Your idea of God was wrong???

What if your idea of goblins was wrong?
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