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(December 29, 2015 at 12:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(December 29, 2015 at 8:53 am)JBrentonK Wrote: You seriously expect rock crusherz are a fair apology for the idiocy/ignorance of your faithless beliefs? You cannot expect "no God" in a world filled with Gods (man is created to be an exact likeness to God, hell, that's proof enough). I will not accept your faithless, childish ignorance. Not that your one of those atheists that doesn't understand (yet) that in an atheist society, all atheist are closet homosexuals, hiding from fear of the final, devastating exposure, but... I have something for you.
I grew up with the attitude, just like most people, that God is the fundamental part of your mindset. So I was an atheist for 25 years out of my fear of God, big deal? Anyway, I am familiar with you atheists, almost too much (is that scary?). I have always accepted God, you see, as "that part of yourself that hopes too much from reality". Well, I have finally got my prayers answered from God (figuratively, of course), and I now know a God that is so equally perfect that he'd never let me down. That's why I'm posting this you see, well, in part anyway.
What I want to know, is why you atheists believe the attitude of your faithlessness (sorry if I couldn't word it better). Let's hear it. You can't expect this kind of an attitude to go untamed (!-- right? edit:Apparently I meant my religious attitude, upon re-reading my post). I will continue to post threads targeting atheism and atheists, in general of course, in the same manner, until my beliefs are finally justified. And lord do I have a lot to tell you.... To keep it simple, though, please, just include a reason why you feel you are justified for holding the atheist stance. That's the least I'd ask for. So to speak anyway. You see, the atheist "attitude" is just one thing I get too much of (I mean, I understand it too well). But I've been a christian for only 5 years, so I am still not very far on in my life, and my faith. So atheism in general then, is really too much for me.
Please include what was asked for, and maybe we will still barely manage to believe your "atheism is a religion." [fyi i believe weaveworld was a book]
Since this was an open invitation to everyone here, I would like you to answer a question first before I answer yours, if that's okay with you:
Why does it bother you that there are some people in this world who don't believe in god?
Simple question that I hope you will answer.
Actually this is not a simple question. I should refuse to answer it, it would make a lot more sense to do so. But I will try my best to do so. Anybody who doesn't believe in the proof that is that of God, will go to hell. There are probably many reasons.... God is self evident, and people who don't believe in him should probably answer for their so called crime. And it is probably near an actual "crime" dimension.... God is self evident, all the proof for him in the world is nothing but a reality, so therefore, the non belief in God would be "nothing but a non reality", and that = "not being a world for God" and all kinds of other stuff related to the physical existence of the man, God, so it is easy to prove he exists as an actual, real, physical entity. Which is really interesting.... There is philosophys that would dramatically benefit from some proof from this sort of thing, particularly for instance, materialism. All of philosophy, for instance, epistemology, would be removed or categorys or new wordings would have to change for different philosophys titles or whatever, which his just huge. So it is so so so weird to me, as I should have said, that God is not believed in, because, his VERY EXISTENCE is self evident, nothing but a huge self evidentoryness wherein, all things that exist, even come into the picture, and they all seem to revolve around nothing but God. God. God.
The people who do not believe in God are doing the greatest injustice to this world. Particularly, those who pretend to be genuinely donating to charitys out of the goodness of their "atheistic heart" (as if there was a such a thing). They are doing an injustice to the faith that they have towards God. Which inadvertently causes hatred and misdeeds to spread all throughout the world. The world would be a place of equality and kindness, faith and Good heartedness, understanding and security, leadership and approval, etc, if only it had just a little bit more of God. God is the reason we even live, so we should do a good justice to god, and the people who do not believe in him should be called "weird", even, because their body would appear to be disfigured (as I have called them, "closet homosexuals"), because they do not "live" God. To not live God would be an injustice to life, liberty, and the pursuit of living, so as you can see, it is all quite complicated. Disfigured societys, on this forum called "atheist societys", would be none other than the spread of disease and toxic waste. Just kidding. But really they would be. There are probably a million reasons I can name.
But there are a tons more reasons I can give. Because we were created by God, would people who believe in God be violent to me? Would they physically harm me by being violent outcasts, like drfuzzy suggested above? After all, they are "opposed" to Gods existence since he is the creator. Do I need to actually protect myself from the faithless, scum dwelling atheists of the world? Is it THAT important?
Do people want to go to hell for not having the correct views on God? I can save as many as it takes.... *Sigh* I may not have enough religious faith to bring in my arms ten dozen hundreths of people at a time, all being saved by a "miracle"; although, it says that those who do not believe will only go to hell based on what it is they believe, or something like this I think, so that kinda helps me feel more at ease. Is it okay to believe in a leader, who rules nations, that believes in God? What if a ruler of nations (for example the president of the united states of America) did not believe in God? Am I safe? President Barack Obama sure doesn't believe in God! He's one of those "Hi-ati-y's" that invoke violence to the neighbor and stuff. Do people who disbelieve in God challange my personal faith? And more importantly, does that challange my way of life? Will I be required to live differently, due to the beliefs of other peoples faiths? That is a very important issue for a Christian, because there are many different ways faith is directly challenged. For instance, I believe in God, but do I believe in the non existence of God? What if a Pagan, a Devil Worshiper, or a Starseer, decided to tell me that it were okay to kill people? That it were okay to do direct violence to any of my peers?
Is every thing okay with an answer like this? Or do you want to hear a much longer rant?
Does that even answer your question? Why does it bother me? What? Why does what bother me? That people don't believe in God? Are you suggesting that that is possible? By the by, was the term "atheist" ever actually made authentic? Is an atheist genuine? I can ask the same question atheists ask. There is more to being a Christian than appears to the eye. I don't generally hold that it is acceptable to put God before all, and accept faith based on nothing but being radical, but I do believe that I should at least follow what society tells me, and live a life that is as near the norm as possible. This is the only way to be human.
What bothers me? That a person even concievably can be thought of as one who disbelieves in God? You suggesting that is possible? Why would you? Do you intend to cause physical harm to your own physical body? Do you want to deteroiate? How about cause pollution?....
The atheists of this world are the problem with society, miss LadyForCamus, not the christian, who believes and knows God is real, as opposed to those who do not believe.
(December 29, 2015 at 12:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Since this was an open invitation to everyone here, I would like you to answer a question first before I answer yours, if that's okay with you:
Why does it bother you that there are some people in this world who don't believe in god?
Simple question that I hope you will answer.
Actually this is not a simple question. I should refuse to answer it, it would make a lot more sense to do so. But I will try my best to do so. Anybody who doesn't believe in the proof that is that of God, will go to hell. There are probably many reasons.... God is self evident, and people who don't believe in him should probably answer for their so called crime. And it is probably near an actual "crime" dimension.... God is self evident, all the proof for him in the world is nothing but a reality, so therefore, the non belief in God would be "nothing but a non reality", and that = "not being a world for God" and all kinds of other stuff related to the physical existence of the man, God, so it is easy to prove he exists as an actual, real, physical entity. Which is really interesting.... There is philosophys that would dramatically benefit from some proof from this sort of thing, particularly for instance, materialism. All of philosophy, for instance, epistemology, would be removed or categorys or new wordings would have to change for different philosophys titles or whatever, which his just huge. So it is so so so weird to me, as I should have said, that God is not believed in, because, his VERY EXISTENCE is self evident, nothing but a huge self evidentoryness wherein, all things that exist, even come into the picture, and they all seem to revolve around nothing but God. God. God.
The people who do not believe in God are doing the greatest injustice to this world. Particularly, those who pretend to be genuinely donating to charitys out of the goodness of their "atheistic heart" (as if there was a such a thing). They are doing an injustice to the faith that they have towards God. Which inadvertently causes hatred and misdeeds to spread all throughout the world. The world would be a place of equality and kindness, faith and Good heartedness, understanding and security, leadership and approval, etc, if only it had just a little bit more of God. God is the reason we even live, so we should do a good justice to god, and the people who do not believe in him should be called "weird", even, because their body would appear to be disfigured (as I have called them, "closet homosexuals"), because they do not "live" God. To not live God would be an injustice to life, liberty, and the pursuit of living, so as you can see, it is all quite complicated. Disfigured societys, on this forum called "atheist societys", would be none other than the spread of disease and toxic waste. Just kidding. But really they would be. There are probably a million reasons I can name.
But there are a tons more reasons I can give. Because we were created by God, would people who believe in God be violent to me? Would they physically harm me by being violent outcasts, like drfuzzy suggested above? After all, they are "opposed" to Gods existence since he is the creator. Do I need to actually protect myself from the faithless, scum dwelling atheists of the world? Is it THAT important?
Do people want to go to hell for not having the correct views on God? I can save as many as it takes.... *Sigh* I may not have enough religious faith to bring in my arms ten dozen hundreths of people at a time, all being saved by a "miracle"; although, it says that those who do not believe will only go to hell based on what it is they believe, or something like this I think, so that kinda helps me feel more at ease. Is it okay to believe in a leader, who rules nations, that believes in God? What if a ruler of nations (for example the president of the united states of America) did not believe in God? Am I safe? President Barack Obama sure doesn't believe in God! He's one of those "Hi-ati-y's" that invoke violence to the neighbor and stuff. Do people who disbelieve in God challange my personal faith? And more importantly, does that challange my way of life? Will I be required to live differently, due to the beliefs of other peoples faiths? That is a very important issue for a Christian, because there are many different ways faith is directly challenged. For instance, I believe in God, but do I believe in the non existence of God? What if a Pagan, a Devil Worshiper, or a Starseer, decided to tell me that it were okay to kill people? That it were okay to do direct violence to any of my peers?
Is every thing okay with an answer like this? Or do you want to hear a much longer rant?
Does that even answer your question? Why does it bother me? What? Why does what bother me? That people don't believe in God? Are you suggesting that that is possible? By the by, was the term "atheist" ever actually made authentic? Is an atheist genuine? I can ask the same question atheists ask. There is more to being a Christian than appears to the eye. I don't generally hold that it is acceptable to put God before all, and accept faith based on nothing but being radical, but I do believe that I should at least follow what society tells me, and live a life that is as near the norm as possible. This is the only way to be human.
What bothers me? That a person even concievably can be thought of as one who disbelieves in God? You suggesting that is possible? Why would you? Do you intend to cause physical harm to your own physical body? Do you want to deteroiate? How about cause pollution?....
The atheists of this world are the problem with society, miss LadyForCamus, not the christian, who believes and knows God is real, as opposed to those who do not believe.
As I suggested WHAT? Where? Nowhere have I ever suggested violence against xtians. Cite the post, please.
The rest was word salad that did not answer LadyforCamus' question. Why does it bother YOU what other people believe? You'll never meet any of us. Even if you did, our beliefs are not your business. Your beliefs are not our business. Do you hate all Buddhists too? Jews? Hindus? If you hate everyone who isn't xtian, that's about 5 billion people on this planet, so you really do want to see the world burn, don't you?
Of course I don't believe in god. I don't believe in any gods. Or Satan, or demons, or ghosts, or vampires, or the tooth fairy, or werewolves, or spirits.
Oh, and what is "deteroiate"? Sounds fun, I'm intrigued.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
(December 29, 2015 at 1:05 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: Do I need to actually protect myself from the faithless, scum dwelling atheists of the world? Is it THAT important?
Do people want to go to hell for not having the correct views on God? I can save as many as it takes.... *Sigh* I may not have enough religious faith to bring in my arms ten dozen hundreths of people at a time, all being saved by a "miracle"
You do realize that's only 1.2 people, don't you? And President Barack Obama seems ...nevermind
(December 29, 2015 at 12:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Since this was an open invitation to everyone here, I would like you to answer a question first before I answer yours, if that's okay with you:
Why does it bother you that there are some people in this world who don't believe in god?
Simple question that I hope you will answer.
Actually this is not a simple question. I should refuse to answer it, it would make a lot more sense to do so. But I will try my best to do so. Anybody who doesn't believe in the proof that is that of God, will go to hell. There are probably many reasons.... God is self evident, and people who don't believe in him should probably answer for their so called crime. And it is probably near an actual "crime" dimension.... God is self evident, all the proof for him in the world is nothing but a reality, so therefore, the non belief in God would be "nothing but a non reality", and that = "not being a world for God" and all kinds of other stuff related to the physical existence of the man, God, so it is easy to prove he exists as an actual, real, physical entity. Which is really interesting.... There is philosophys that would dramatically benefit from some proof from this sort of thing, particularly for instance, materialism. All of philosophy, for instance, epistemology, would be removed or categorys or new wordings would have to change for different philosophys titles or whatever, which his just huge. So it is so so so weird to me, as I should have said, that God is not believed in, because, his VERY EXISTENCE is self evident, nothing but a huge self evidentoryness wherein, all things that exist, even come into the picture, and they all seem to revolve around nothing but God. God. God.
The people who do not believe in God are doing the greatest injustice to this world. Particularly, those who pretend to be genuinely donating to charitys out of the goodness of their "atheistic heart" (as if there was a such a thing). They are doing an injustice to the faith that they have towards God. Which inadvertently causes hatred and misdeeds to spread all throughout the world. The world would be a place of equality and kindness, faith and Good heartedness, understanding and security, leadership and approval, etc, if only it had just a little bit more of God. God is the reason we even live, so we should do a good justice to god, and the people who do not believe in him should be called "weird", even, because their body would appear to be disfigured (as I have called them, "closet homosexuals"), because they do not "live" God. To not live God would be an injustice to life, liberty, and the pursuit of living, so as you can see, it is all quite complicated. Disfigured societys, on this forum called "atheist societys", would be none other than the spread of disease and toxic waste. Just kidding. But really they would be. There are probably a million reasons I can name.
But there are a tons more reasons I can give. Because we were created by God, would people who believe in God be violent to me? Would they physically harm me by being violent outcasts, like drfuzzy suggested above? After all, they are "opposed" to Gods existence since he is the creator. Do I need to actually protect myself from the faithless, scum dwelling atheists of the world? Is it THAT important?
Do people want to go to hell for not having the correct views on God? I can save as many as it takes.... *Sigh* I may not have enough religious faith to bring in my arms ten dozen hundreths of people at a time, all being saved by a "miracle"; although, it says that those who do not believe will only go to hell based on what it is they believe, or something like this I think, so that kinda helps me feel more at ease. Is it okay to believe in a leader, who rules nations, that believes in God? What if a ruler of nations (for example the president of the united states of America) did not believe in God? Am I safe? President Barack Obama sure doesn't believe in God! He's one of those "Hi-ati-y's" that invoke violence to the neighbor and stuff. Do people who disbelieve in God challange my personal faith? And more importantly, does that challange my way of life? Will I be required to live differently, due to the beliefs of other peoples faiths? That is a very important issue for a Christian, because there are many different ways faith is directly challenged. For instance, I believe in God, but do I believe in the non existence of God? What if a Pagan, a Devil Worshiper, or a Starseer, decided to tell me that it were okay to kill people? That it were okay to do direct violence to any of my peers?
Is every thing okay with an answer like this? Or do you want to hear a much longer rant?
Does that even answer your question? Why does it bother me? What? Why does what bother me? That people don't believe in God? Are you suggesting that that is possible? By the by, was the term "atheist" ever actually made authentic? Is an atheist genuine? I can ask the same question atheists ask. There is more to being a Christian than appears to the eye. I don't generally hold that it is acceptable to put God before all, and accept faith based on nothing but being radical, but I do believe that I should at least follow what society tells me, and live a life that is as near the norm as possible. This is the only way to be human.
What bothers me? That a person even concievably can be thought of as one who disbelieves in God? You suggesting that is possible? Why would you? Do you intend to cause physical harm to your own physical body? Do you want to deteroiate? How about cause pollution?....
The atheists of this world are the problem with society, miss LadyForCamus, not the christian, who believes and knows God is real, as opposed to those who do not believe.
***sigh*** I am so, so, sorry I asked..... But thanks for trying I guess. JK, do you see what is going on in the Middle East right now? You do understand this is because of religion, and religious zealots, yes?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
LadyForCamus: "JK, do you see what is going on in the Middle East right now? You do understand this is because of religion, and religious zealots, yes?" He'll just tell us they're the WRONG religious zealots. And that they're ALMOST as evil as atheists.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
And Dr fuzzy is right. You didn't really answer my question about why it bothers YOU personally. Other than, vaguely: atheists are the sum and total reason for all violence and badness in the world, in which case you are not a very smart person (and this is coming from a person who is self admittedly not very smart), and please see my post just above.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
(December 29, 2015 at 2:53 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: LadyForCamus: "JK, do you see what is going on in the Middle East right now? You do understand this is because of religion, and religious zealots, yes?" He'll just tell us they're the WRONG religious zealots. And that they're ALMOST as evil as atheists.
Ahh, yes. If everyone on the planet just lived their lives exactly the way does the world would be perfect!
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
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