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RE: Drunk Driver kills family of 4, content warning
January 5, 2016 at 6:05 pm
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(January 5, 2016 at 6:01 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: (January 5, 2016 at 5:56 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: impaired- affected by alcohol or drugs to the extent of losing control over one's faculties or behavior
It does excuse the person, to a certain extent. It's not like they kill people deliberately. It does not excuse the fact that they consumed alcohol or drugs before driving, of course, but it's not the same as intentionally driving someone over with your car.
Yea, that's true. I don't like that word ''impaired'' though to define this. That's just me and my semantics. 
The thing is when I read stories like this, this woman knew the consequences, and no...she didn't 'set out' to kill anyone, but to drive your car under the influence of alcohol, it shows a gross lack of concern for others, if nothing else. But, in a sense that could be how addicted she may be to alcohol. It's a sad story for her, too, to have to live with what she's done.
Let's say she wasn't that addicted to it, but simply made a bad decision. Now instead of blaming her for it, did you give some thought as to maybe what drove her to ultimately make that decision at that moment in her life? Do you know about all of the circumstances that led up to it? If you did know about them, can you imagine you would still want to blame her? What would you do if you were her, with all the same experiences, genes, and so on? Could you still blame her then?
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RE: Drunk Driver kills family of 4, content warning
January 5, 2016 at 6:10 pm
(January 5, 2016 at 6:05 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: (January 5, 2016 at 6:01 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: Yea, that's true. I don't like that word ''impaired'' though to define this. That's just me and my semantics.
The thing is when I read stories like this, this woman knew the consequences, and no...she didn't 'set out' to kill anyone, but to drive your car under the influence of alcohol, it shows a gross lack of concern for others, if nothing else. But, in a sense that could be how addicted she may be to alcohol. It's a sad story for her, too, to have to live with what she's done.
Let's say she wasn't that addicted to it, but simply made a bad decision. Now instead of blaming her for it, did you give some thought as to maybe what drove her to ultimately make that decision at that moment in her life? Do you know about all of the circumstances that led up to it? If you did know about them, can you imagine you would still want to blame her? What would you do if you were her, with all the same experiences, genes, and so on? Could you still blame her then?
There are always reasons behind bad decisions. I have empathy for we are all capable of making bad decisions, but we still have to face the consequences of those bad decisions.
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RE: Drunk Driver kills family of 4, content warning
January 5, 2016 at 9:56 pm
I'm sorry, NONE of that carries ANY weight, with me.
We have been educated up to the teeth, in our society, about the reality of impaired driving, stunt driving, or distracted driving.
You are operating two tonnes of speeding metal and glass.
Even at the best of times, terrible accidents can happen,
why would anyone risk, FOR ANY FUCKING REASON, driving under the influence???
I am not prepared to cut any slack whatsoever.
If you're going to let people off the hook for this,
then you may as well dispense with the legal driving age, or legal drinking age, for that matter,
and let kids drive who aren't even tall enough to reach the pedals or see over the dashboard,
because it's no fucking different.
Take accountability.
You know the fucking risks.
You drive drunk, it is the same thing as firing a weapon at random into a crowd.
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RE: Drunk Driver kills family of 4, content warning
January 6, 2016 at 4:23 am
The good news is that all of the family members were killed. It would suck to survive something like that.
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RE: Drunk Driver kills family of 4, content warning
January 6, 2016 at 1:10 pm
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(January 6, 2016 at 4:23 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The good news is that all of the family members were killed. It would suck to survive something like that.
I think that is an instinctive reaction: we don't like to see someone suffer heartbreak or hardship,
so our knee-jerk reaction, in the short term, is that it is better to die than survive,
when your whole family is killed.
And it's possible that you might be right, in this particular scenario;
But in the longer term, this isn't necessarily true:
Lots of people have survived great losses, and were glad they did;
a damaged life still often being better than no life at all.
We don't know the extent of the children's injuries,
or how much extended family they may have had that could have raised them.
If the children had been able to physically recover,
and still be raised in loving homes,
I think that would have been better, by far,
than death.
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