My final theory of Creation as a believer

[Old Baby]

I'm not a believer anymore, as I've already explained, but as recently as a year before my faith was destroyed, I thought I had a pretty good idea of how everything worked, i.e. God, Creation, the universe, etc.  Feel free to blow huge holes in this.

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1. If in the beginning only God existed, it follows that God could not have reached outside himself for the ingredients of Creation.  Thus, the ingredients of Creation came from God himself.  This means that everything that exists consists wholly of God-matter.  Thus, the universe is not merely a creation of God, but consists of God himself.  The Creator and the Creation are one.   The universe is therefore conscious and sentient.

2. Energy is the most basic form of everything that exists.  Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed.  It is, therefore, eternal.  Thus, the universe is eternal in some form.  Thus, the universe is God. 

3. God = energy = Creation/the Universe answers the question of miracles.  Miracles are only classified as supernatural magic because that's the only way they could be understood by ancient man.  But, if energy is conscious and sentient, there is no need to argue for the supernatural or magic, as a conscious universe could just as easily suspend its own laws as we can scratch an itch.

4. If God is the universe, the human race exists inside the body of a seemingly infinitely more complex life form.  This seems no more far fetched than a bacteria living inside a human being.  There are good bacteria and bad bacteria, the most "insidious" of which can cause cancer in a human being.  Likewise, sin is the cancer of bad bacteria (humans) on their host body (God). 

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Yes, this theory seemed entirely plausible to me at the time.  Nevermind the fact that it begins with a number of presuppositions including:

a) God exists.
b) God can be known.
c) The Christian God is the real God.

I'm not a scientist or even a normal guy who knows a lot about science, but I still find my theory of God/Creation more compelling than the one offered by guys like William Lane Craig and Lee Strobel.

Destroy it.

[robvalue]

Interesting! It sounds quite similar to pantheism.

It makes more sense than most explanations I've heard. But as you noted, it's basically a whole load of unsupported, unecessary assumptions.

And if God made the rules, I guess he could make it so that energy could be created. Otherwise he himself is bound by some sort of rules.

It's a valiant attempt to try and force some logic into a mythical belief. I name it, "God playing with himself"

[Old Baby]

Interesting! It sounds quite similar to pantheism.

It makes more sense than most explanations I've heard. But as you noted, it's basically a whole load of unsupported, unecessary assumptions.

And if God made the rules, I guess he could make it so that energy could be created. Otherwise he himself is bound by some sort of rules.

It's a valiant attempt to try and force some logic into a mythical belief. I name it, "God playing with himself"

Even as a Christian, I felt that God had to be bound by some laws.  I felt that the entire idea of omnipotent and omniscient were our ideas about God.  If God cannot act contradictory to his own nature, he is therefore not omnipotent.  In fact, my entire theory of Hell was based on the idea that there were people who God could not embrace because they were a cancer in his body, so all he could do was cut them out.  If God was truly omnipotent and could do anything he wanted, while at the same time being an all loving father, Hell made no sense whatsoever.

[brewer]

What existed before god? Who created god?

[robvalue]

That's a naughty question

[Old Baby]

What existed before god? Who created god?

This question destroys the presupposition but not the possibility of the existence of an eternal being who requires no cause.  For me, the possibility was good enough to justify the presupposition.

[Minimalist]

What existed before god? Who created god?

[robvalue]

The biggest assumption I find that people make about "God" is that he is automatically "good". That doesn't seem to follow at all. What's to stop a tremendously powerful thing being a douche nozzle?

[brewer]

Why did god create?

[robvalue]

That's a question that rarely gets addressed in any theology. It appears to be nothing more than a screw-around.