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Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
(January 10, 2016 at 11:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(January 10, 2016 at 2:40 pm)Tiberius Wrote: If a rape victim consented to sex and then withdrew consent during the act, it's still rape if the person having sex with the victim continues to have sex with them.

It doesn't matter if someone is "asking for it". A person can request sex and then refuse it, even during the act. Consenting to sex doesn't mean you have to go through with the entire act.

I agree, but I'd be pretty skeptical of this particular woman's story. It doesn't seem credible to me at all, someone who's gone through the trauma of rape doesn't put herself in the same situation again and again and again.

According to?
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
(January 11, 2016 at 2:52 am)Irrational Wrote:
(January 10, 2016 at 11:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I agree, but I'd be pretty skeptical of this particular woman's story. It doesn't seem credible to me at all, someone who's gone through the trauma of rape doesn't put herself in the same situation again and again and again.

According to?

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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
(January 11, 2016 at 2:52 am)Irrational Wrote:
(January 10, 2016 at 11:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I agree, but I'd be pretty skeptical of this particular woman's story. It doesn't seem credible to me at all, someone who's gone through the trauma of rape doesn't put herself in the same situation again and again and again.

According to?

To be fair, i'm fairly sure it'd fall under basic self-preservation.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
(January 10, 2016 at 11:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(January 10, 2016 at 10:33 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Not at all when the lines are blurred by a woman in the same shower as you snogging your face off while you're smashed as shit.

Bullshit.  We are civilized beings.  If you can't stop yourself from physically restraining a woman and forcing yourself on her while she screams and cries, there is something wrong you on a far deeper level then just: "oh, man....I was just so drunk!

If we were all civilised beings then we wouldn't have the issue of rape at all would we. Dumbass.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
(January 10, 2016 at 11:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Bullshit.  We are civilized beings.  If you can't stop yourself from physically restraining a woman and forcing yourself on her while she screams and cries, there is something wrong you on a far deeper level then just: "oh, man....I was just so drunk!"

No, we're not. Undecided
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
(January 11, 2016 at 3:10 am)Jello Wrote:
(January 11, 2016 at 2:52 am)Irrational Wrote: According to?

To be fair, i'm fairly sure it'd fall under basic self-preservation.

http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/2000-13348-001

According to the study linked above, past victimization was one of the factors that increased the risk of rape.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
(January 10, 2016 at 11:19 pm)Beccs Wrote: She exercised poor judgement but did no deserve to be raped.  She compounded the error by goinf to social media instead of the cops.  Even if the guy is taken to court she has damaged her case.

Rape isn't justifiable under any circumstances.  Victim shaming and blaming isn't either.

The story indicates that she isn't a pure snowflake.  Based upon the evidence in the story she's on a crusade and has profited from her previous rapes.  The latest one gives her another notch on her belt.  The story suggests that she manipulated the situation to ensure that the guy thought that he was going to get lucky with her.  If the incident had happened in some States the guy would definitely be facing numerous rape charges and would almost certainly be convicted on all counts.  

This is not like the typical rape case when the woman is forcibly attacked by one or more unknown strangers.  It's not even like cases of acquaintance rape.  My opinion is that she is a sexual predator and that she will be in the news soon with another claim that she was raped, probably under similar circumstances.  That's because she is rewarded for being a rape victim through her web site and organization.  The woman has serious mental and emotional issues.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
I don't think anyone is saying she "deserved to be raped"... she did something irresponsible, and unfortunately it happened as a consequence. I don't wish car accidents on people who don't wear seatbelts, but it can happen as a consequence. That's just a fact.

Sorry but she is somewhat, even if just a little, responsible for herself in this particular situation.

Yes, it's correct to say it's "always the fault of the rapist". That non-negotiable. I repeat for emphasis, the guy in this story is a rapist and needs to do time.

It not correct to always say "the victim has absolutely no responsibility". No, these two statements are not mutually exclusive, as much as everyone loves to think they are. She was probably pissed off her face herself, or maybe high off something, which she shouldn't have been if she knows she ends up endangering herself. Either that, or she doesn't have enough common sense to be left on her own, if she thinks that shit was rational. If she's been raped as many times as she claims she has been, she needs help, not attempts at defending her irresponsibility in this situation.
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This has probably been said already, but:

The rapist is the only one who did anything "wrong", legally and perhaps morally speaking.

The woman acted incredibly stupidly and was needlessly putting her self in potential harm's way. She isn't "to blame", but she probably could have easily avoided the whole scenario; in the same way I can lessen my chances of getting run over by not throwing myself in front of cars, even if I allow them enough stopping distance.

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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
She was raped over 9 times before.
Over 9 fucking times. Fuck.
She thought getting naked with a man on shower and kissing him wouldn't excite the guy? Holy shit. Raped 9 times before. She knows how a situation can escalate into one which leads to sex and yet she went into a shower with a guy that was making moves on her, was drunk and kissed him. Shit.
She is either completely brainless or put herself in that situation knowing what would happen. I'll leaning slightly on the latter part and the former.

Fuck no, rape is not okay. If you get raped once, that's terrible. If you get raped twice, that's very sad and you have my whole support. But when someone gets raped for over 10 times. Fuck. 10 fucking times. Even I know something's up. Shit. Seems like a completely manufactured scenario to me.
Shithead's like this are the real reason why real rape victims loose credibility.

Did you guys know that this chick reported a man to his boss because he waved at her?
She was apparently on an anti-rape tour and wasn't getting any attention or publicity. She then proceeds to select a guy, remember she was raped for over 9 times before, she kisses him, have a FUCKING SHOWER with him for Christ's sake. They have sex, and she cries rape. She apparently now have a shitload of more publicity for her tour and apparently had recently updated her profile with a link to buy some online shit of hers after this incident of hers. I don't think for a second she is dumb enough to go into a shower WITH A FUCKING STRANGER after being raped for over 9 times by 9 different people. She is smart enough to use all this attention to promote her tour. I mean, look at that instagram pic of her crying. Fake as fuck. She probably took a couple of selfies before she got the right one. What a joke
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